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#163013 - 03/28/07 10:03 AM Re: Return m22's for m60's, or replace my sub [Re: KC23]
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Registered: 03/26/07
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Thnak you all for your comments...I am starting my tweaks by moving the sub tonight..from near corner to mid-wall and note the change. I am not sure if the M22's are too small...but I do notice a thinness to the sound my old speakers filled in...any thoughts if the M50's would help? With the Axiom stands that I purchased the price difference is under 100 bucks....

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#163014 - 03/28/07 11:05 AM Re: Return m22's for m60's, or replace my sub [Re: yanksjazz]
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Thnak you all for your comments...I am starting my tweaks by moving the sub tonight..from near corner to mid-wall and note the change. I am not sure if the M22's are too small...but I do notice a thinness to the sound my old speakers filled in...any thoughts if the M50's would help? With the Axiom stands that I purchased the price difference is under 100 bucks....




Sounds like you would be happier with some 6.5" woofers in your mains. I would skip the M50s and head straight to the M60s, they will sound similar to your M22s but with more lower end warmth. The M50s will not have the high/mid clarity that your M22s have, and you may find yourself prefering your M22s now that you have been listening to them.
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#163015 - 03/28/07 12:44 PM Re: Return m22's for m60's, or replace my sub [Re: Hutzal]
yanksjazz Offline
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The mid/high clarity is the charecteristic that I love so far...I would not want to lose that. I am considering a 10" HSU sub (30 day trial!) before I consider an Axiom swap...but first a move of the Velodyne (I think its future lies with my HT in another room!)

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#163016 - 03/29/07 02:24 AM Re: Return m22's for m60's, or replace my sub [Re: yanksjazz]
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How big a room to you have? I recently got an HSU sub VTR 2.3 and I'm very happy with it. They are a bit bigger physically than a lot of subs, but the value is excellent.

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#163017 - 04/01/07 12:39 PM Re: Return m22's for m60's, or replace my sub [Re: yanksjazz]
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After two days of listening to my M60s I realized I needed a sub. Your room dimensions are similar to mine. I spent an entire weekend locating the sub in various locations and found that up front next to a main was the best home for it. A corner location was too boomy at times. I considered the M22s but worried about them being too small, and the fact that I like my music loud. 75% of my listening is 2.1 channel stereo (with the sub). I'm really happy I chose the M60s. Because I was tight on space, I chose a small-form sub solution from a different company, the SB12-Plus from SVS. It's proven to be an excellent match for the M60s. If you have an open adjoining room, keep the sub three or four feet away from the corner where the two rooms adjoin.

As was mentioned here, calibration is critical, and be certain to set your mains to small.
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#163018 - 04/05/07 12:40 PM Re: Return m22's for m60's, or replace my sub [Re: PDXGuy]
yanksjazz Offline
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Well, I have ordered the M60's (shipped yesterday)so the decision is made. I will be moving my sub out of the corner to mid-wall and then calibrating it...this should help the "boominess" until an upgrade....my room is mid sized with 2 large openings to other rooms...the sound of the M22's are excellent but I believe the M60's will give that "extra" in upper-mid range I currently have with my Pinnacle floorstanders. I listen mostly to music and the setup is stereo only........

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#163019 - 04/10/07 02:35 AM Re: Return m22's for m60's, or replace my sub [Re: yanksjazz]
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Registered: 03/12/05
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Loc: St. Albert, Alberta
Let us know what you think of the change in sound from the m22's to the m60's.

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#163020 - 04/17/07 01:04 PM Re: Return m22's for m60's, or replace my sub [Re: PaulM]
yanksjazz Offline
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Registered: 03/26/07
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I am very happy with the M60's...definitley the right choice for me. Many of the comments on these boards about the charecteristics of each speaker were spot on...the M22's are slightly more detailed, and more "transparent" than the M60's..but for my music choices and room I believe the "larger" sound of the M60's are more appropriate. Listened to John Faddis "Tarango" over the weekend and could not believe the presence of his horn! Moved my sub-woofer away from corner and adjusted the crossover so it has improved...but my next upgrade will most likely be an HSU.

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