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#173728 - 08/03/07 06:09 PM M3's and in-ceiling mounting ?
Jas_M Offline
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Hi,

I'm currently building a theater room and planning to use a 7.1 setup. Unfortunately due to door's and windows, the left & right SIDE surrounds have to be mounted in the ceiling. I was planning on purchasing the Epic 80 Theater package (5.1) and purchasing a pair of M3's to be placed in the ceiling.

Can someone tell me if this will work, or reccommend a better setup in my case. I'm really not that familiar with axiom products (my friend is) so I leave this question to the experts here to address.

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#173729 - 08/03/07 07:50 PM Re: M3's and in-ceiling mounting ? [Re: Jas_M]
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Everyone knows how I feel about in-ceiling speakers for home theatre. But, if you must, it may be easier to go with the W series.

Why don't you use QSs and place them ahead or behind of the obstacles?

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#173730 - 08/03/07 07:58 PM Re: M3's and in-ceiling mounting ? [Re: Jas_M]
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Any possibility of hanging your side surrounds from the ceiling using the Full Metal Ceiling bracket, or some other ceiling bracket? That would allow you to use M3s, or even the incredible QS surrounds, in a more conventional and advantageous manner.
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#173731 - 08/03/07 08:00 PM Re: M3's and in-ceiling mounting ? [Re: Ajax]
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M3s are quite large, so you'd better have a really, really thick ceiling if you're going to try that. I'd rather suspend QS8s from the ceiling. You also aren't going to want direct radiators for side surrounds and quadpolar speakers for the rear--that's pretty much opposite of how it should go.
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#173732 - 08/03/07 10:23 PM Re: M3's and in-ceiling mounting ? [Re: Ken.C]
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You also aren't going to want direct radiators for side surrounds and quadpolar speakers for the rear--that's pretty much opposite of how it should go.




Now you got me thinking. Maybe I should change my rear QS8s to M3s for better rear effects.

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#173733 - 08/03/07 10:23 PM Re: M3's and in-ceiling mounting ? [Re: Ken.C]
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Ken, isn't it a given that one would NOT screw the speaker and bracket into something incapable of holding it? I agree that the QS8s are preferable for side surrounds which is why I described them as "incredible."
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#173734 - 08/03/07 10:30 PM Re: M3's and in-ceiling mounting ? [Re: Mojo]
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Quote:

Quote:

You also aren't going to want direct radiators for side surrounds and quadpolar speakers for the rear--that's pretty much opposite of how it should go.




Now you got me thinking. Maybe I should change my rear QS8s to M3s for better rear effects.



If you primarily use your rears for HT, I would think the QS8s would be preferable in the rear. I use direct radiators for my rears, and am considering moving them to my bedroom system and replacing them with dipoles that match my side surrounds.
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#173735 - 08/03/07 10:38 PM Re: M3's and in-ceiling mounting ? [Re: Ajax]
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I use direct radiators for my rears, and am considering moving them to my bedroom system and replacing them with dipoles that match my side surrounds.




Why? What are you unhappy about?

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#173736 - 08/03/07 11:42 PM Re: M3's and in-ceiling mounting ? [Re: Mojo]
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Some people use direct radiating in the rears for music reasons. However, for HT use the Q's will still perform better. Actually, I think my 4 Q's do great for music as well, pretty much wraps you in the sound.

I'm also not a fan of "in-ceiling" speakers for left/right surrounds or rears. It basically goes against the whole purpose of how those channels are to be experienced.

I would try to ceiling mount some Q's either with a DIY method or Axiom bracket. They will not block the windows that much and if you get the right color to match your room decor, they will compliment your room.
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#173737 - 08/03/07 11:57 PM Re: M3's and in-ceiling mounting ? [Re: SirQuack]
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Oh, my feeling was just that if you're going to have both direct radiators and multipolar speakers in your setup, it makes more sense to put the multipolars on the sides than the back. If you're going to have multipolars all around, more power to you.

Jack, my comment wasn't directed at your post. If he's trying to stick M3s in the ceiling, it had better be one thick ceiling so that they don't stick out the floor above!
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