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#182450 - 11/08/07 11:51 AM Re: Anyone using the Denon 3808CI and M80&#8217;s [Re: michael_d]
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#182596 - 11/09/07 09:43 AM Re: Anyone using the Denon 3808CI and M80&#8217;s [Re: Ken.C]
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Hey guys...been a long while.

I also got a new 3808...and it's been quite good so far. Gotta love HDMI...the one cable solution.

Now, the one question I have...since the 3808 is compatible with 1.3a, is it worth it to get HDMI cables that support that bandwidth as well? They are not that much more at monoprice, so, I figured it might be worth a question, before I make the purchase.

Hope u like the receiver mdrew...I know I do, so far. Though, since my wife and I just moved to Florida (back in June), it's going to take some time to get the new room setup.

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#182599 - 11/09/07 10:17 AM Re: Anyone using the Denon 3808CI and M80&#8217;s [Re: inthedeck]
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I have heard that the new 1.3a cables are just marketing gimmicks...however, I could be wrong, I do know that normal HDMI cables have the bandwidth to carry most of the 1.3a specs, if not all of them.

I say go for the 1.3a if you have a 1.3 compatible display.
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#182602 - 11/09/07 10:49 AM Re: Anyone using the Denon 3808CI and M80&#8217;s [Re: Hutzal]
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I will have to check the specs for the TV...but, I do know that the receiver accepts 1.3a signals.

I doubt that the Direct TV receiver, although an HD receiver, can pass out 1.3a signals...but other devices, such as HD-DVD players, the PS3, etc. are all 1.3a compliant.

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#182603 - 11/09/07 10:50 AM Re: Anyone using the Denon 3808CI and M80&#8217;s [Re: inthedeck]
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No matter what player outputs 1.3a HDMI, your display has to be a 1.3a display, or the 1.3a is useless.
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#182614 - 11/09/07 12:00 PM Re: Anyone using the Denon 3808CI and M80&#8217;s [Re: Hutzal]
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Cool...thanks. I guess that's the answer I was looking for. So, it's all about the display...for the most part.

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#182622 - 11/09/07 12:34 PM Re: Anyone using the Denon 3808CI and M80&#8217;s [Re: inthedeck]
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#182623 - 11/09/07 12:34 PM Re: Anyone using the Denon 3808CI and M80&#8217;s [Re: inthedeck]
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The 1.3 spec allows for a much higher bandwidth capacity than 1.1, but from my understanding, that is mostly in regards to deep color because 1.1 can accommodate 9 channels of un-packed high rez PCM, which is a lot more information than DST-M and DD True HD in bitstream format (which 1.3 supports over 1.1 and 1.2). Deep color however, (again to my understanding) will most likely not ever happen. So I wouldn’t get all fired up to swap out cables just because you have a 1.3 receiver in the loop now. Where I’ve seen complaints with HDMI cables failing, is where folks have unusually long runs in excess of 35’ and they installed some cheap first batch 28 ga cables. I would suggest to anyone running cable, to just get a good 22 (or 24) gauge cable and that should be adequate. If deep color actually starts to show up, then I reckon it might be time to rip everything out and start all over with some new and improved media transfer system…..

So how’s the GUI working out for you? Any issues with that?? That’s probably what I’m looking forward to more than anything else.
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#182629 - 11/09/07 01:29 PM Re: Anyone using the Denon 3808CI and M80&#8217;s [Re: michael_d]
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Yeah, content that's natively Deep Color seems unlikely. However, I could see color upconversion at some point, where the player or display intelligently smooths out the gradation. If bandwidth is really an issue with Deep Color, then I imagine all of that video processing would end up in the display rather than the player. Native Deep Color? Maybe with holographic media, ultra high-def, and the successor to HDMI.

That's just a stab in the dark after zero research whatsoever.

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#182634 - 11/09/07 01:46 PM Re: Anyone using the Denon 3808CI and M80&#8217;s [Re: CV]
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The GUI is pretty neat. Much better than the crappy one on the HK Avr-7300 which I sold. No good POC!...hehe. It's actually set up pretty nice, and once you figure out how to naviate through it, it becomes much easier to use. I like it...but, ymmv.

I tell ya, I am glad that the Denon is Made in Japan...their workmanship is SO much better than the stuff made in China. No offense to anyone, but, that's just my take on it. I am sure there are some components in the 3808 from China, but the majority of it is Japan. I know the 'remote' is MIC...but, I think the rest of the receiver is all Japan. Of course, I would have to inspect all the chips, to see the truth.

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