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No, I'm not trying to start another great debate. Who got the most recent newsletter though. Alan suggested replacing the cables to fix some video issues on a TV. Thought that was interesting, since we often see debates about cables on here, although usually those debates relate to audio and not video cables.
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Video is a much more demanding medium than audio. It stands to reason that using higher-quality cables will make a difference that is within a human's ability to detect.
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Especially when capacitance is concerned....
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Not as important with audio??
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You just don't have to go overboard with the video cables. I usually buy the cheapest ones I can find for the length desired with the best shielding I can find. Video signals are low voltage so the cabling does make more of a difference than for audio, much like interconnects. There is just no reason to spend hundreds of dollars for a cable that does the same thing a $20 one will do, without a big brand name stuck all over it.
For example, with my recent TV and DVD player purchase I bought a $79 12' HDMI cable and a $29 12' HDMI cable, I can see no difference in the PQ or hear a difference in the audio between the 2, so I took the more expensive one back.
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Has anyone tried rusty fence wire for video?
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Has anyone tried rusty fence wire for video? Yes, but it gave a slightly red hue to everything.
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I actually just switched out a video cable today with fantastic results. I have a rather old LCD monitor attached to my computer. The signal path before today, from computer to monitor, was:
1. DVI out on video card 2. DVI to D-Sub adapter 3. VGA cable 4. Base of monitor 5. analog to digital converter built-in to base 6. DFP cable (used before DVI became an accepted standard) from base to actual display panel
With the purchase of a single DVI to DFP computer, my signal path is now:
1. DVI out on video card 2. DVI to DFP cable 3. LCD panel
Everything is now noticeably crisper, and the screen seems to be a touch brighter, as well. After recalibrating the monitor, I am now feel I have a new screen for the price of an $18 cable.
I had been meaning to make the change for a really long time, but never felt a need since the old connection worked just fine.
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I actually just switched out a video cable today with fantastic results. I have a rather old LCD monitor attached to my computer. The signal path before today, from computer to monitor, was:
1. DVI out on video card 2. DVI to D-Sub adapter 3. VGA cable 4. Base of monitor 5. analog to digital converter built-in to base 6. DFP cable (used before DVI became an accepted standard) from base to actual display panel
With the purchase of a single DVI to DFP computer, my signal path is now:
1. DVI out on video card 2. DVI to DFP cable 3. LCD panel
Everything is now noticeably crisper, and the screen seems to be a touch brighter, as well. After recalibrating the monitor, I am now feel I have a new screen for the price of an $18 cable.
I had been meaning to make the change for a really long time, but never felt a need since the old connection worked just fine. A perfect example of what happens with too many connections, everything still works but a little loss at each connection affects the outcome.
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Well, probably not a great a/d converter in the monitor at least.
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Now I don't have to hit the auto-adjust button every few hours to make text crisper. That was definitely the fault of the a/d converter.
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I have been running my HDTV, Panny S77 DVD and Moto 6412 STB for over a year now with the cheap HDMI cable that Panasonic included and a $10 HDMI cable from Monoprice. It all works great.
No Mon$ter or other premium cables required here.
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HDMI, Optical and Coax all send digital signals, 0's and 1's folks. As long the connections on eather end are in good shape you can't convince me that a $220 cable will sound / look beter than a $20 cable. As long as the 0's and 1's get to the device in the correct order at the right time, it doesnt matter how.
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