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#192413 - 01/15/08 02:09 PM Re: Where to place additional subs? [Re: St_PatGuy]
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In sending Amie a PM, who touched base with Ian, they said the new 350(s) would blend nicely with a 600. The best setup is identical subs, but the more woof the better, no matter what brand.

Also, RickF, he said you can hook a 350 up to the line-out on a 600. Not sure why Brent would say differently.
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#192414 - 01/15/08 02:14 PM Re: Where to place additional subs? [Re: SirQuack]
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Another reason I'm considering 2 350v3's is because of the freq range up to 150hz, where the 500 has the brickwall at 100hz. Might help fill in the dip I was getting above 100hz in my graphs?
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#192415 - 01/15/08 02:14 PM Re: Where to place additional subs? [Re: St_PatGuy]
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 Originally Posted By: St_PatGuy
Speaking of mismatched subs, I use two small sealed 10" subs with my Hsu VTF3 mkII. Although, not ideal--the smaller subs strain during some movies--the benefit of smoothing out the bass in my room is noticeable. I had the subs tucked away in the closet unused, but I figured if I got 'em I might as well use 'em.


I have 2 10-inch sealed subs on order from AV123. I plan on first trying them with the EP500 before moving them to 2 channel duty with my M3 systems.

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#192416 - 01/15/08 02:18 PM Re: Where to place additional subs? [Re: SirQuack]
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Because of the new size of the enclosure the tuning frequency (Fb) of the 350v3 sub should be reasonably close to that of the 500/600 so it should mesh reasonably well with the larger EP subs. Generally speaking, the more Fb differ the tougher it is to get them blended with each other.
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#192419 - 01/15/08 02:28 PM Re: Where to place additional subs? [Re: SirQuack]
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack

Also, RickF, he said you can hook a 350 up to the line-out on a 600. Not sure why Brent would say differently.


Randy, he didn't say they could not be connected together ... he said they would probably be way mismatched. I believe he also stated that he, at one point had an older version EP350 connected with his 600 in a 2500cf(?) room and the 600 so overpowered the 350 that the addition of the old 350 wasn't worth the effort. Maybe the new 350v3 will be a better match. I believe this was Brent telling me this, again ... I *could* be wrong with the name.
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#192458 - 01/15/08 08:18 PM Re: Where to place additional subs? [Re: bugbitten]
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 Originally Posted By: bugbitten
 Originally Posted By: St_PatGuy
Speaking of mismatched subs, I use two small sealed 10" subs with my Hsu VTF3 mkII. Although, not ideal--the smaller subs strain during some movies--the benefit of smoothing out the bass in my room is noticeable. I had the subs tucked away in the closet unused, but I figured if I got 'em I might as well use 'em.


I have 2 10-inch sealed subs on order from AV123. I plan on first trying them with the EP500 before moving them to 2 channel duty with my M3 systems.


I forgot that you jumped on that special. That should be a great two-channel set up. Where do you plan on placing the subs?

When I ran two subs in my previous two channel system I preferred the subs right next to the main speakers. Didn't like them so much space out around the room. That's just me, though.
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#192479 - 01/15/08 10:06 PM Re: Where to place additional subs? [Re: Murph]
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Andrew, since the sound at these very low frequencies is essentially omni-directional, the large furniture items that you mention shouldn't have a significant effect on the cancellation factor.
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#192547 - 01/16/08 02:15 PM Re: Where to place additional subs? [Re: JohnK]
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This is kind of a crazy question, but has anyone mounted a sub up on a wall, near the ceiling? Of course you would have to have a sturdy shelf or chain/rope suspending it to the 2x6's.

The reason I ask is because if I get a second sub and place it on the rear wall directly opposite my front sub according to the Harmon White Paper, it would be where the walkout door is, however, I have plenty of room above the door since we have 9ft ceilings. It might be interesting how well it works.
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#192549 - 01/16/08 02:17 PM Re: Where to place additional subs? [Re: SirQuack]
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I could see it working, but more likely on a shelf of some sort. Wouldn't the driver movement cause it to rattle chains?
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#192551 - 01/16/08 02:20 PM Re: Where to place additional subs? [Re: Ken.C]
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I suppose your right about the chains. I'm pretty sure it could be done as I would be going right into the 2x6's of our exterior wall. I'd probably try using two ladders to test it before I tried figuring out how to mount it. \:\)
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