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#221600 - 09/19/08 03:46 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: The Ninja]
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I don't recall ever seeing anything on the site about 30 day return policy,, thanks for the update.
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#221608 - 09/19/08 04:32 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: The Ninja]
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Long time lurker, first time posting \:\)

Ninja I have one question.

What delayed you in shipping some crossovers to Axiom up to this point? You had over a week to ship them out before this announcement today.


Edited by Dr.House (09/19/08 04:38 PM)

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#221611 - 09/19/08 04:51 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: BlueJays1]
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Hello Dr. House. All networks are custom built at the time of ordering and I did not have all parts in stock. We do stock a good number of items here but we were missing a few things.

You'll note on the SNS site it lists 3-6 weeks from order to delivery. We always try and improve on that of course but we also have a little buffer built in case we have component back ordered from the manufacturer.


Edited by The Ninja (09/19/08 04:52 PM)

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#221613 - 09/19/08 04:54 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: The Ninja]
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Ah, one more item... a pair of networks is built over the span of three days as we must properly dry the paint and adhesives before wiring up and shipping.

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#221614 - 09/19/08 05:03 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: The Ninja]
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Thanks for adding the measurement charts. I have no doubt that the speaker does sound different since you changed the crossover point from about 4k to about 2k.

Having said that, I wonder how a blind test would work with a stock M22, and one with cheap Radio Shack L/Cs to adjust the XO to 2k?
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#221615 - 09/19/08 05:07 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: The Ninja]
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Thanks for the reply. I am dissapointed this fell through. I was very interested to see how the measurements and double blind testing would pan out.


Edited by Dr.House (09/19/08 05:09 PM)
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#221616 - 09/19/08 05:09 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: SRoode]
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Unless you are highly skilled, you can't just drop in a few parts in the stock network and expect it to work properly.

That said, if you are highly skilled and want to do it, I say go for it \:D

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#221617 - 09/19/08 05:10 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: The Ninja]
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House,

It can still happen... I'm sure one of you guys here has a decent measurement rig (You can get Praxis for $1K) and can set up a blind test. Someone already emailed me about this and I told him it was A-OK with me...

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#221618 - 09/19/08 05:11 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: The Ninja]
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#221619 - 09/19/08 05:24 PM Re: Skiing Ninja offering M22v2 upgrade [Re: The Ninja]
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 Originally Posted By: The Ninja
Unless you are highly skilled, you can't just drop in a few parts in the stock network and expect it to work properly.

That said, if you are highly skilled and want to do it, I say go for it \:D


I wasn't suggesting "dropping in" inductors and capacitors into the existing network. I was suggesting making a new "network" using cheap parts (the "network" is nothing more than an inductor in series with the speaker, and a cap in parallel for a 2nd order XO). I'm not sure what the individual impedances are in the Axiom speaker, but if they are 4 ohm, you would only need to buy a .45 mH inductor and a 14 microfarad cap.

Anyway, I'm sorry you are not sending it over for testing, I was really looking forward to seeing the results.
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