Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Amp advice + M80s

Thanks for the input guys. And, Jake, yes the deal was for both! What happened was, about three weeks ago I had been to Future Shop here in Brampton and talked the salesman down to $920.00 (Cdn) on a Denon 989 which seemed like a pretty good deal. So, a couple of days later I was auditioning some Paradigm speakers at one of our local hifi's and he asked me what AVR I would be using. I told him I had just picked up the 989 at FS and he tells me..." if you haven't used it yet-take it back, I can sell you a 2809 with an 1800BD (basically free) for $1209.05 Cdn". This includes 2 yrs ext coverage on the Blue Ray, without extended coverage was $1111.00 approx. He told me this was a Denon promo and it looks to me that not a lot of hifi stores are passing along the full discount of the 1800. For ex., one of the dealers in Mississauga was selling the 2809 for, I believe, $1299 Cdn and offered the 1800 at $499 if you bought them together. Quite a difference. Same two dealers were about $500-600 difference on the speaker systems I priced. BTW, as most of you probably know, who already own Denon, the 989 and 2809 are virtually the same exc. the 2809 has the 2nd and 3rd zone control.

Bob, $599 sounds like a good deal for the 2309. I believe the exchange rate right now is around $1 US/ 1.22 Cdn approx.

SO it's the 2309 and not a 2809, not that it matters from a performance perspective, but it does make a difference on the price you bought it for. I have seen the 2309 on sale for $599, a good deal. My nephew and I were out on Boxing day and picked up a 3808 for $1380, couldn't get them down any lower.

Don't get confused!

Adrian IS talking about the 2809.

I am talking about the 2309. (I'm surprised you saw it anywhere for $599)

I jumped in this conversation basically discussing the ability (or not) of the Denon receivers being able to hadle the 4ohm load of the Axiom M80. I am very impressed by all I have seen on these speakers and I am willing to give them a serious shot. Just don't want to have any amp problems down the line. I intend to give Denon Tech Support a call tomorrow.

Just to reaffirm, yes, I bought the 2809 not the 2309, with the 1800BD together. Taxes were extra, over the price I stated of course. There are great deals out there, just have to look, and seems to be a buyers market right now. Bob, you might want to ask Alan or Brent about your Denon 2309 as well, re. 4ohms. Alan has gotten back to me with answers very quickly, I must say (tks Alan). I figured if I couldn't run the M80's, I could go for the M60's instead as they seem to be similar in sound, albeit not quite as powerfull. BTW, Bob, I emailed both Denon Cda and Denon USA about the 4 ohm question, and neither have contacted me (2 wks). I'm guessing that if the 2809 is ok with 4 ohms then your 2309 should be ok too. If you compare the specs, they are similar. the weight of both are nearly identical/with 15 watt diff output. I would ask Alan for his thoughts as well as Denon.

I need to start paying attention to who's posting

I always figured if my lowly 1804 powered the M80s anything above that would do so as well, and they do.

I called Denon on the phone last week to ask the difference between the 888 and 889 and then another call to ask the difference bwteen the 889 and the 2309. I thought they were very good on the phone. Try calling them instead of email.

Wish I could have gone for a larger receiver. Funny thing is the guys over at Orb Audio and their website offers the Denon 889 as an upgrade for a package deal. Since doing all of this research (and it's been plenty believe me) I have totally and completely discarded the idea of Orb speakers.

Jay, regarding your 3808 purchase, I believe that that promo applied to it as well. You may want to ask around some of your local hifi's and ask them about this. You might be able to get a price adjustment or possibly return and repurchase (as I did). I got this deal (AVR 2809+1800BD) on the 13th December. Hey, it's worth a shot! I can tell you where I got it from, if Axiom doesn't mind, I think they have stores across Canada-yup, just checked, they are. Maybe the promo's still on....

What is so funny? You probably have some of those cheap pure silver cables from that Buddhist Monk out of Unicornatopia. But all recent tests show his wire is crap – all papyrus marketing hype. I just read the back cover of Hi-Fi Ads Weekly and they confirm my Yttrium wire is superior. The Deaf Monk crafts them using the sharpened bones of virgin lamp-cord dealers from the mythical Homas Depoteous.

And Wikipedia confirms this:
Yttrium is a chemical element with symbol Y and atomic number 39. It is a silvery-metallic transition metal chemically similar to the lanthanoids and has historically been classified as a rare earth element.[1] Yttrium is almost always found combined with the lanthanoids in rare earth minerals and is never found in nature as a free element, unless brought fourth from a secret chant by a Deaf Monk on the third full moon of the Winter Solstice. Its only stable isotope, 89Y, is also its only naturally occurring isotope. The audio clarity of yttrium wire is also well accepted in knowledgable circles outside of Axiom forums.

I know, I know. I stood in the corner a while, but my B&W sub kept ... damn it, I did it again. Need to find a new corner...or an Axiom 7.2 setup.