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#242380 - 01/24/09 08:57 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: BoB/335]
myrison Offline
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Registered: 02/03/08
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Loc: Austin, TX
Yes, why not? Paste 'em in! \:\)

To the original poster, if you're interested in more pics of the HG Cherry, check out those linked to in my signature. I've yet to have anyone walk into my home theater without commenting on what amazing looking speakers they are. (only topped by their reaction when they hear them, which then, finally, is only topped by their amazement when I tell them how much the system costs) ;\)

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#242392 - 01/24/09 10:17 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: myrison]
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Just this very minute accidently ran across this thread in another forum. I was NOT looking for this!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1112264

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#242394 - 01/24/09 10:20 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: BoB/335]
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Yep, this guy is wanting to spread/trash AV123 so others will spread it, that is obvious, some have tried to do that with Axiom. Your always going to have a few bad eggs and can't make everyone happy. AV123 makes great speakers, as does Axiom.
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#242396 - 01/24/09 10:33 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: SirQuack]
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That guy seems to have had issues with that compnay. Seems real. However that is something you should not bring onto other public forums.
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#242398 - 01/24/09 10:37 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: BlueJays1]
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Oh, it is very real, I followed some of it on AV123, I totally agree that he should not handle it in front of the internet community. There is always two sides to every issue. \:\)
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#242399 - 01/24/09 11:00 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: SirQuack]
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack
Oh, it is very real, I followed some of it on AV123, I totally agree that he should not handle it in front of the internet community. There is always two sides to every issue. \:\)


Sorry to disagree. This guy seems to have spent a lot of money with AV123. He has had some customer service problems. I spent a bit of time on that forum and the runaround stories from the owner were only outdone by the cheering section there. As a service oriented business person myself, there was no way for me to accept the rhetoric being spewed daily over there.

Of course there are 3 sides to every story but this is one side that needs to be told.

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#242400 - 01/24/09 11:01 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: SirQuack]
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One must not forget Craig and Mark are in buisness together . Remember this while asking for his opinion on other speaker brands.
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#242402 - 01/24/09 11:07 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: SirQuack]
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There's always going to be issues, esp with internet based co's, it's how the co deals with the problem and corrects it through customer relations is the key issue. Hopefully this guy, who sounds genuine, can work things out with Av123. It should be done privately instead of on a public forum, but we all know there are thousands of consumers out there who have resorted to the internet crowd as a last means, (not saying that's the case here), from car problems to warranty issues on their toasters....
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#242403 - 01/24/09 11:10 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: Wid]
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That's good to know, Rick. ;\)
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#242405 - 01/24/09 11:13 AM Re: Axiom vs. av123's Rockets [Re: Wid]
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 Originally Posted By: wid
One must not forget Craig and Mark are in buisness together . Remember this while asking for his opinion on other speaker brands.



And with that in mind, here are some follow-up emails that some here might find interesting:


Hey Craig,
Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to get back to me. Actually I was concerned about the vinyl finish on the Axioms. The Rockets were an earlier contender. I have been concerned with the subs being shipped with the current special. Also the 850's look rather large in the dimensions compared to the M80 and the RC-70. I had shown my wife the Orbs about 2 or so weeks ago and up until last night I think she thought I was still going small. A lot has happened in 2-3 weeks. I have a J&R Music close to work and listemed to some JBL and Polk Towers. Problem is they had the others in a different room (very small) with different equipment. Certainly less than an ideal situation. I'm having a hard time finding any high end audio around here. We have several 5th Ave, Electronics in different directions I will try to hit this weekend. Anyway, I'll look into the Rockets again. "Easily bested by the Rockets" eh? I know you have a "friendly competition" with AV123. You're not biased here, are you? The people who don't like he Axioms think they are too bright and will eventually cause fatigue. HMMmm? Thanks! BoB


Bob ... No bias, I make nothing on Rockets, plus I am also not much for being biased. I own a Ford dealership but drive a Corvette for a sports car. Whatever is the best, is just that, the best. Danny Richie, who is doing AV123's design work, is a genius. If you want a real GEM, check out the Rocket 450's ... smaller than the 850's, and truly close to the Axioms for output, with a slightly less forward sound. I still like the Axioms, too - it's just they are essentially the same thing they were 6 years ago. If you look at the reactions of guys getting 450's, it has been REALLY positive. Craig

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