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#244517 - 02/03/09 09:27 AM Re: EP800: Initial Thoughts and Pictures [Re: myrison]
MarkSJohnson Offline
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Registered: 09/27/04
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Loc: Concord, NH
 Originally Posted By: myrison
look into adding a Behringer Feedback Destroyer (BFD) equalizer to tune the response in your primary listening position to be as flat as possible.


Jason:
I would need to pull my rack out to look at the back of my BFD, but doesn't it also offer two outputs?
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#244555 - 02/03/09 11:46 AM Re: EP800: Initial Thoughts and Pictures [Re: myrison]
RickF Offline
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Registered: 02/26/05
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Loc: Vero Beach, Florida
Jason, forgive me if I missed it ... did you compare the 800 against the 600, one on one?
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#244575 - 02/03/09 12:16 PM Re: EP800: Initial Thoughts and Pictures [Re: RickF]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
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Loc: Canada
Probably, but he's being a tease.
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#244577 - 02/03/09 12:18 PM Re: EP800: Initial Thoughts and Pictures [Re: fredk]
tomtuttle Offline
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Registered: 06/20/03
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Loc: Tacoma, WA
Yes, the BFD has two outputs, but I think you have to feed it two inputs, also. That being said, I think this would be terribly useful in having multiple subs, because the BFD would ensure that the split signal did not drop significantly in voltage. Likewise, you could theoretically EQ two subs differently.
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#244716 - 02/03/09 07:40 PM Re: EP800: Initial Thoughts and Pictures [Re: tomtuttle]
myrison Offline
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Loc: Austin, TX
Yes, two outputs that can be equalized separately. And while I tried doing this first, what I found was that it's actually easier to plug them both into the same output and equalize the room as a whole compared to trying to tune them each individually. (the problem with the latter is that as soon as you turn them both on, cancellation occurs and your two perfectly flat curves disappear).

The BFD does boost the input voltage significantly, so some of you that might remember the EP600's attenuation that occurs when daisy chaining another sub through it will be happy to know that putting the BFD into the mix solves this problem.

And yes, I've compared the two directly. I'm now sitting down to write up some more detailed thoughts. So, shhh, no interrupting!

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#244724 - 02/03/09 08:08 PM Re: EP800: Initial Thoughts and Pictures [Re: myrison]
tomtuttle Offline
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Ah-HA!!
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#244727 - 02/03/09 08:20 PM Re: EP800: Initial Thoughts and Pictures [Re: tomtuttle]
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Loc: Fishers, Indiana, USA
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#244738 - 02/03/09 09:38 PM Re: EP800: Initial Thoughts and Pictures [Re: SRoode]
CV Offline
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Registered: 07/20/06
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Loc: Richland, WA, USA
Well, I got my EP800s, but I'll have to get them both replaced. One had a ding, which I thought I could live with, but then I saw the volume knob was messed up. Also, the crossover switch didn't click at each setting. It clicked okay at the first two settings, then kind of feels odd and doesn't click at the other settings. True, I could just have them replace the amplifier section on that one, but I may as well get the ding taken care of, too.

On the other one, the grill was pressed against it, leaving a mark which may or not be able to be cleaned off. I didn't look too closely. But several pegs on the grill are broken, and one of the holes for the pegs is a little messed up. So yeah, all of this waiting and now I get to box them both back up to be shipped back. Not fun! Anyway, tomorrow I'll take pictures and email them to Axiom and see about having replacements sent. In the meantime, they DO function, so I'll still play with them. I watched a little bit of Kung Fu Panda just to see if it seemed any different, and it did, so I think I'll be happy once I get pristine subwoofers.
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#244739 - 02/03/09 09:44 PM Re: EP800: Initial Thoughts and Pictures [Re: CV]
wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6055
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

Wow that would suck, big time.
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#244745 - 02/03/09 10:04 PM Re: EP800: Initial Thoughts and Pictures [Re: wid]
Adrian Offline
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Registered: 12/27/08
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Loc: Caledon, Ontario
Sorry to hear that CV, those 800s are pretty heavy, I wonder if they need even more anti-Fedex packing or not?
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