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#277928 - 11/06/09 03:21 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: grunt]
grunt Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
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I finally found my camera so I took a shot of the screen so you can see it’s size relative to the room. Picture is from 19’ back under the projector shelf. Sorry so dark, I need to figure out how to adjust the flash so it’s not keying on the white screen and making the rest of the room dark.



The screen is a 134” diagonal Carada 1.78:1 Brilliant White. No screen artifacts, hot-spotting, or any other anomalies I can see. From 19’ the AE4000 in cinema 1 and eco-mode is perfect. This screen is working perfectly. I’m glad I didn’t pay more to get a Stewart.

Now that I’ve watch a few full movies and listened to more music I can’t express how happy I am to have my M80 center up and running again.
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#277930 - 11/06/09 03:32 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: tomtuttle]
grunt Offline
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 Originally Posted By: tomtuttle

When's the party, again?


Gotta get the home-brewery up and running again before I can have a real “Grand Opening.”
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#277931 - 11/06/09 04:03 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: grunt]
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Do you have the 4000 mounted offset or is it far enough back the beam can get under the ceiling fan?

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#277953 - 11/06/09 09:14 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: Potatohead]
grunt Offline
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It’s about 4” below the center of the screen. The shelf is adjustable and I could probably line it up dead center but when I first put it up I wasn’t sure so I dropped it a bit to make sure it wouldn’t hit the fan. The screen leans forward slightly because of the way it hangs from the ceiling. I guess because of the distance 19’, the minimal offset and slight leaning I can’t see any keystone issues.
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#277960 - 11/06/09 09:34 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: grunt]
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Registered: 03/07/05
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Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 Originally Posted By: grunt


You’re more than welcome if you ever swing by the South West. Once I get the curtains and most everything else done I’ll see if Sean wants to drop buy and have a look/listen. I need someone to verify that I’m not exaggerating about any of this.



Augh! I missed this! Sorry, Dean.

Yes! I'd love to drop by and take a look at your set up. I think I'm going to develop a serious case of screen envy! Ha ha, go ahead and ruin my TV for me. \:D

Also, I'd love to listen to your M80s. Let me know when you get everything all set to go. I'm just up the road from you.
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#277962 - 11/06/09 09:36 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: tomtuttle]
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Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
So, you're looking for somebody credible - like SEAN - to substantiate your claims?

Ba-hahahahahahahahahaha!!



Glad you are enjoying it, Dean. I kind of hate it when people rekindle my projector lust, though.


Very funny. . .


;\)
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#277967 - 11/06/09 09:48 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: St_PatGuy]
Adrian Offline
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Loc: It's all about the location.
Looking good, Dean!

BTW, how high is your ceiling? looks more than 8+ ft.
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#277970 - 11/06/09 10:07 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: Adrian]
grunt Offline
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Where the screen is hanging it’s about 9’6” vaulted up to a peak of 11’. the back wall the projector is on is only 8’. one of the specific reason I bought this house was because of the layout of this room. Having a 9.5’ screen “wall” allows me to use the second largest 1.78 screen Carada makes and still allow my M80s to fit under it. This gives me complete freedom of placement for all 3 of my M80s something a taller standard screen or an AT screen wouldn’t have allowed. I feel this gives me both the best video and audio w/o having to compromise either one for the sake of the other.

I wanted the vaulted ceiling for acoustics but the added benefits are less reflection off the ceiling do to it angling up and the high peak allows me to keep the ceiling van (love it) just with a shorter drop rod.

Based on a couple days viewing I don’t see any problems with this screen height. Especially for other people coming over to watch 2.35:1 movies since I can just turn the dial on top of the AE4000 and it shifts the 2.35:1 image down from the center of the screen to the bottom edge which is eye level (big chairs) (didn’t use the other term since Richeydog posted that rather disturbing picture last time ;\) ).
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#277971 - 11/06/09 10:12 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: grunt]
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Registered: 05/11/02
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Dean, I'm also thinking that maybe your 2807 wasn't in top shape. At the 95dB level that you mention, although it's too high for continuous listening without hearing damage, the 2807 should easily power the M80s(something on the order of 10 watts)with inaudibly low distortion. I've also wondered about the difficulties which you've described in the past in setting up its Audyssey MultEq XT, which also isn't really typical.

The new Onkyo has nominally the same MultEq XT as the 2807 with whatever improvements have occurred in past three years and which could improve the in-room results independently from power output. You didn't mention it specifically, but if you had Dynamic EQ applied with Audyssey this would also make a significant difference compared to the 2807.
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#277973 - 11/06/09 10:28 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: JohnK]
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Thanks for your response John, and for validating what I was thinking that the 2807 shouldn’t have had any problems at 95dB. I’ve also thought for some time that my bad (not subtle but really bad) results with Audyssey were to atypical to for a system operating properly.

Not sure if I mentioned it but Dolby PLIIx also sounds much better on the Onkyo. So much so that I’m using it as my standard listening mode for now pending the myriad other modes available to try. With EQ Audyssey has applied to the subwoofer and the greatly improved soundstage from the PLIIx I can’t see not using them now.

I turned off all the EQ functions when I switched the Onkyo over to test the M80s at 100dB. The comparison is between Onkyo’s “pure audio” and Denon’s “pure direct” both with all EQ and bass management off.
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