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#250049 - 03/03/09 04:41 PM Re: I made a mistake...please help. [Re: Zimm]
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Registered: 12/08/08
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I almost laughed when Sir Dip$^!+ tried to explain "these are very revealing, really going to show flaws in the recording." I'm thinking, wow, so if Axiom had a show room this is the sales pitch. He could have just said Bright!
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#250051 - 03/03/09 05:00 PM Re: I made a mistake...please help. [Re: Zimm]
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Registered: 08/25/04
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Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
I've read your post about 10 times and I still can't figure out what speaker model you are talking about. They're not Bose are they ?

Maybe the speakers really are that good - or maybe it's the listening room - or maybe they pipe french-fry-smell into the room to distort your perception, it's hard to say right now ;\)

Were the speakers very expensive ?


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#250054 - 03/03/09 05:16 PM Re: I made a mistake...please help. [Re: bridgman]
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I can't figure out the name. (And I did not want to post my guess of the name as I don't want Axiom to take it the wrong way.) But the sales guy - I mean Sir DipS - said they were locally made and not yet available to the market yet. No they were not Bose. I thought the 5.25 driver looked like a ScanSpeak, but I can't be sure. They cost $1,800 a pair. So not technically "very" expensive, although more than I would think to spend on a bookshelf/monitor. Just insane imaging.

I was hungry, I wonder if the fry smell did it? Speaking of; the WWII Museum here in New Orleans is about to open a huge 4D theater (their term) where they use the smells of gunpowder and oil, they blow hot and cold aid, drop snow, and shake you as you watch a custom made movie. The french fry smell should come when the movie ends.
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#250057 - 03/03/09 05:20 PM Re: I made a mistake...please help. [Re: Zimm]
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Do yourself a favor and listen to some M22s or M3s before you spend $1800 on monitors. You won't regret it.
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#250061 - 03/03/09 05:26 PM Re: I made a mistake...please help. [Re: bridgman]
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I have had occasions on some material that I have actually unplugged and removed my center channel to ensure it wasn't on. Imaging on the M80's is that good. I have also unplugged my sub for the same reason on occasion.

Zimm, PSB is a good Canadian speaker company. There stuff is pretty good, at least from what I have read and heard in stores. I am supprised they are letting you down like this. Have you tried moving them around a bit, or moving your listening position to find a better sweet spot?

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#250065 - 03/03/09 05:39 PM Re: I made a mistake...please help. [Re: Worfzara]
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 Originally Posted By: Worfzara
I have had occasions on some material that I have actually unplugged and removed my center channel to ensure it wasn't on. Imaging on the M80's is that good. I have also unplugged my sub for the same reason on occasion.

How about your surrounds? Listening to Imogen Heap's "Speak for Yourself" and Bjork's "Volta" (among others) I definitely get a surround effect from just my mains.
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#250066 - 03/03/09 05:40 PM Re: I made a mistake...please help. [Re: Worfzara]
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Loc: New Orleans
 Originally Posted By: Worfzara

Zimm, PSB is a good Canadian speaker company. There stuff is pretty good, at least from what I have read and heard in stores. I am surprised they are letting you down like this.

I have to be fair to PSB, I don't think they are letting me down, that's why this experience surprised me. As I said, also listened to Magnapans, Paradigm Signatures, etc., within 10 min of these little demons, and only these little monitors stood out from the pack (in terms of what I have come to expect). So I don't blame PSB, I truly enjoy my PSBs and the $8000 Para Sig 8's did not have me longing for them. Sure my PSBs could be better, they are not the top-PSB, but I have not had an itch to replace them in almost a decade.

This just sounded so much better I was am shocked. Maybe I will dome some M3 or M22 and see if I have been missing something all this time.
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#250067 - 03/03/09 05:43 PM Re: I made a mistake...please help. [Re: ClubNeon]
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Registered: 07/25/05
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Loc: London area, Ont, Canada
Yes, also get a 3d effect on some well recorded material. Never thought of unplugging the QS8's, but now that you mention it......

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#250068 - 03/03/09 05:49 PM Re: I made a mistake...please help. [Re: ClubNeon]
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Registered: 12/08/08
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Loc: New Orleans
 Originally Posted By: ClubNeon

How about your surrounds? Listening to Imogen Heap's "Speak for Yourself" and Bjork's "Volta" (among others) I definitely get a surround effect from just my mains.


I get that a good bit mainly b/c my room is small. At loud levels the 2ch mode sounds like surround sound.

Speaking of great imaging, anyone here listen to Buena Vista Social Club? Buena I'm am not a fan of Cuban music, but this stuff is fantastically clear and quiet so you hear every touch of the keys or strum of a string. And the image is very solid and defined. I should bring that to the Hi-Fi shop and see if it makes me cry.
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#250097 - 03/03/09 09:54 PM Re: I made a mistake...please help. [Re: Zimm]
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Registered: 12/08/08
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Loc: New Orleans
After coming home and playing You and Your Friends on the home system I can more accurately say it is not that the image of my PSBs is not there, it is just that image presented is not as razor sharp as the image i enjoyed today. Same general placement, but lacking the absolute image clarity that hooked me.
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