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#254134 - 03/28/09 05:26 PM Re: My findings on setting delay (distance) with subs. [Re: BlueJays1]
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Randy,

You can change all the settings after running Audyssey. You just can't change the EQ settings.

I'll play tomorrow.
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#254139 - 03/28/09 05:35 PM Re: My findings on setting delay (distance) with subs. [Re: michael_d]
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ok, so you can adjust the distance with no problems? I was thinking I read either on the Audyssey FAQ homepage, or on AVS that you couldn't. Wouldn't changing distance settings affect the frequency results Audyssey found prior? I know when I alter distance settings, it changes my graphs a little.
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#254142 - 03/28/09 05:48 PM Re: My findings on setting delay (distance) with subs. [Re: SirQuack]
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack

ok, so you can adjust the distance with no problems? I was thinking I read either on the Audyssey FAQ homepage, or on AVS that you couldn't. Wouldn't changing distance settings affect the frequency results Audyssey found prior? I know when I alter distance settings, it changes my graphs a little.


On my Denon 2807 you can change the distance, crossover and large/small settings w/o disabling Audyssey. However, the green light that indicates Audyssey EQ is on changes to red indicating that you have changed some settings. AFAIK you can’t change any of the EQ settings w/o turning Audyssey off as it‘s a specific EQ curve. There are other EQ curves “FLAT” “MAINS” “MANUAL” -etc… but I believe these disable the Audyssey curve completely as Mike said.

Yes changing any of the other parameters will change your frequency plots some more than others.
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#254143 - 03/28/09 05:52 PM Re: My findings on setting delay (distance) with subs. [Re: grunt]
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ok, I get it. \:\) For the most part, you can probably trust the distance settings, as these newer receivers are probably more accurate than my old and trusty 2805. \:\)
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#254144 - 03/28/09 06:03 PM Re: My findings on setting delay (distance) with subs. [Re: SirQuack]
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack

ok, I get it. For the most part, you can probably trust the distance settings, as these newer receivers are probably more accurate than my old and trusty 2805.

Speaker distance settings (not subwoofer) is all I use the auto setup feature for once I decided I didn’t like what Audyssey did in my last room. It’s dead on every time. I will try Audyssey again when I move.
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#254151 - 03/28/09 07:20 PM Re: My findings on setting delay (distance) with subs. [Re: grunt]
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What sub do you have, I find the receiver is very accurate with my non-dsp subs.
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#254154 - 03/28/09 07:25 PM Re: My findings on setting delay (distance) with subs. [Re: SirQuack]
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Registered: 12/27/08
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Audyssey has my sub at over 25 ft, it's about 14...you guys think I should adjust that?
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#254157 - 03/28/09 07:30 PM Re: My findings on setting delay (distance) with subs. [Re: Adrian]
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Wow, sounds like nothing has changed then in regards to receivers. I could be wrong, but I don't think it is Audyssey that is setting the distances, just like large/small. I believe it is the receiver, but I could be wrong.

All I can say Adrian, is that my EP600 Digital based Axiom sub is about 12-13ft away from the primary seat. My Denon had it set to 26.6 ft. Changing mine to 13ft was like night/day, so much better.
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#254161 - 03/28/09 07:41 PM Re: My findings on setting delay (distance) with subs. [Re: Adrian]
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Hey Randy, it's ironic that you found this to be beneficial for you because I was going to try the same thing the other day. I don't use Audyssey, but it did set my subwoofer distance to 23 feet which is double the actual distance (right to the back of my room). When I was playing music the other day I could really feel the bass on the back wall near my elevator which got me thinking of trying to cut the distance of 23 feet in half and seeing how it sounded in the listening position. After reading your post, I ended up trying it earlier (only had a couple minutes) but I didn't notice a difference; I'll do some more listening tomorrow.

I've never had anyone assist me with the subwoofer crawl, so it's very likely that my subwoofer isn't in the ideal position but I'm very limited as to where to put it. That said, do you think that would have an impact? Probably a silly question.

Thanks for the detailed write up and your findings.
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#254162 - 03/28/09 07:42 PM Re: My findings on setting delay (distance) with subs. [Re: SirQuack]
Adrian Offline
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'nough said, I'll adjust it and see how it sounds at 14 ft.
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