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#271872 - 09/08/09 05:24 PM Re: SVS PCi 16-46 and the Axiom EP350-the thoughts [Re: Micah]
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 Originally Posted By: Micah


I think it's a shame that SVS changed their subs over from the beautuful wood finished box models to these huge felt covered cyclinders. As he mentioned, for a highend HT arrangement, you would simply have to go with Axiom or some other brand because how do you integrate that thing in seamlessly with upscale furniture and decore??? Even if they did find huge advantages with going with cyclinders, couldn't they have at least kept the other models around for those who want a more discrete look???



SVS started out with the cylinder subs initially and later added the box line. I've owned and enjoyed SVS cylinder subs for the last 8 years. SVS continues to offer both form factors. I think it's a matter of personal choice. We all have furniture, but I'm not so sure about decore?
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#271875 - 09/08/09 05:51 PM Re: SVS PCi 16-46 and the Axiom EP350-the thoughts [Re: wilwom]
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Well I've seen potted plants, Japanese tree's, crystal sculptures, display cases filled with antiques, even a wooden Indian gracing the interiors of home theaters I've been in. Never have I seen a water heater sitting in the corner.

And I searched and searched for the box-style, down firing subs like they used to sell at SVS, but it seems all of their down firing subs are now the cyclinders. You can get wood finished box-style front firing subs, but not the down firing models. I wish they would have kept them for variety, as it seems they were wickedly popular.
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#271878 - 09/08/09 06:32 PM Re: SVS PCi 16-46 and the Axiom EP350-the thoughts [Re: Micah]
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I'm told that if you have two or three cylinder subs in the same room they start to dominate the decor and look like they belong, assuming the rest of the decor is sufficiently modern.

One cylinder sub... just looks out of place. I suppose you could relocate your water heater and wrap it with black felt to match.

And yes, I own an SVS cylinder sub ;\)


Edited by bridgman (09/08/09 06:35 PM)

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#271887 - 09/08/09 07:17 PM Re: SVS PCi 16-46 and the Axiom EP350-the thoughts [Re: Micah]
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 Originally Posted By: Micah

And I searched and searched for the box-style, down firing subs like they used to sell at SVS, but it seems all of their down firing subs are now the cyclinders. You can get wood finished box-style front firing subs, but not the down firing models. I wish they would have kept them for variety, as it seems they were wickedly popular.


So now you qualified it to down firing subs. And that's why you might just have to go to Axiom to buy a sub? Just which Axiom sub is down firing? Never mind about the decore.

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#271891 - 09/08/09 07:55 PM Re: SVS PCi 16-46 and the Axiom EP350-the thoughts [Re: wilwom]
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I suppose you're right, Axiom doesn't carry downfiring subs either, so scratch them off of my list as well.

Where I was coming from was I was trying to figure out in which direction to go if the replacement EP800 I have coming doesn't perform up to my expectations. I really did like the downfiring subs I've had in the past for one specific reason, the woofer is completely out of harms way as far as curious little people are concerned. No danger of accidentally kicking one and damaging it either. And I always found the dispersment of the bass to be more even (my personal opinion mind you, I have no proof to back that up). So I was looking for down firing subs to either replace the Axiom if I'm not happy with it, or even to accompany it if it does work out, but I feel like adding to the system with something that has a bit more slam. If I add to the existing sub, the next sub will be out in the open, perhaps next to a couch or in the corner somewhere. And since our HT pulls double duty as our sales/viewing room, it has to look elegant.

I found the downfiring SVS subs in dated articles and they were gorgeous. So I started to look to see where I could get one and found they were no longer in production. I thought that was a shame, because they really did look nice imo.
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#271894 - 09/08/09 08:07 PM Re: SVS PCi 16-46 and the Axiom EP350-the thoughts [Re: Micah]
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You could look at the Hsu VTF 3 MK3 with real wood veneer.
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#271896 - 09/08/09 08:53 PM Re: SVS PCi 16-46 and the Axiom EP350-the thoughts [Re: Micah]
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 Originally Posted By: Micah
I suppose you're right, Axiom doesn't carry downfiring subs either, so scratch them off of my list as well.



Well of course they do.

Take a look (5 year old pics)





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If you add extra pucks, you can get more height, but it really isn't necessary.

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#271897 - 09/08/09 09:00 PM Re: SVS PCi 16-46 and the Axiom EP350-the thoughts [Re: chesseroo]
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Lol, what is that... an EP350 sitting on its face?
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#271898 - 09/08/09 09:03 PM Re: SVS PCi 16-46 and the Axiom EP350-the thoughts [Re: Micah]
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 Originally Posted By: Micah
Lol, what is that... an EP350 sitting on its face?

Nope, it's raised on hockey pucks.
Some here have tried soup cans, but i felt the dampening properties of vulcanized rubber on Berber carpet would maximize the decoupling from the ground.
I also found the best effect occurred with the $2 Canadian Tire pucks and not so much with the $8 NHL Official logo pucks.
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#271905 - 09/08/09 09:54 PM Re: SVS PCi 16-46 and the Axiom EP350-the thoughts [Re: chesseroo]
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Registered: 12/27/08
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 Originally Posted By: chesseroo

it's raised on hockey pucks.


You have to feed your EP350?
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