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#287472 - 01/18/10 09:53 PM Re: Learning to use my Denon AVR-890 [Re: jakewash]
Slitman Offline
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Registered: 08/15/06
Posts: 34
Loc: Markham, Ontario
Am about to purchase either the 2310 or 3310 but am a little confused ..

2310 does not have pre-outs but the 3310 does.

I hear that Denon can handle 4 Ohms, as I have M80's, provided you don't push it too loud before it shuts down. But how loud is loud ? (for those who currently have 2310 ?)

Would love to be able to use an external amp to push my fronts (L, R and center) but not sure if the upgrade to 3310 is worth it given the other features of networking, a better amp/processor etc.

2310 - $795
3310 - $1495


Mike
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#287482 - 01/18/10 10:27 PM Re: Learning to use my Denon AVR-890 [Re: Slitman]
Adrian Offline
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Registered: 12/27/08
Posts: 6613
Loc: It's all about the location.
 Originally Posted By: Slitman
But how loud is loud ? (for those who currently have 2310 ?)
Mike

Mike, I would suggest to you that your ears would probably give up before the Denon does, but if you're looking for a Denon AVR with pre-outs, you might ask around for last years 2809(has pre's and 115 wts per ch) at a reduced cost. Should be priced around $800ish.
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#287488 - 01/18/10 11:39 PM Re: Learning to use my Denon AVR-890 [Re: Slitman]
bdpf Offline
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Registered: 06/28/08
Posts: 769
Loc: Toronto, Canada
 Originally Posted By: Adrian
The screen shows "Anynet + (HDMI-CEC)"

Make sure this is "OFF".

You should now have your Blu Ray and TV independently controlled.


Another great advice, I had my TV set up to power on external HDMI devices. Now it works the way I wanted. Thanks.

 Originally Posted By: Slitman
But how loud is loud ? (for those who currently have 2310 ?)


I have the 890 which is the same thing and I had it at max for about 5 min and then had to turn it down. It was just way too loud for my 20x11 room.


Edited by bdpf (01/18/10 11:41 PM)
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#287490 - 01/18/10 11:41 PM Re: Learning to use my Denon AVR-890 [Re: bdpf]
terzaghi Offline
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Registered: 04/04/07
Posts: 4848
Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
I have played my denon 3808 as loud as I care to ever have it.... no problems with the m80's and denon here.
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#287491 - 01/18/10 11:46 PM Re: Learning to use my Denon AVR-890 [Re: terzaghi]
sm_tl Offline
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Registered: 12/31/09
Posts: 8
I just picked up the 3310ci from soundsaround.com for $998 CDN.

In Markham, I got Kennedy HiFi to give me a price of $1295 + tax cash price for the 3310ci

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#287510 - 01/19/10 01:14 AM Re: Learning to use my Denon AVR-890 [Re: bdpf]
Potatohead Offline
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Registered: 05/14/09
Posts: 670
Loc: Vancouver
 Originally Posted By: bdpf


For those of you that have the harmony remote, does it keep track of which devices are on or off at anytime? What I am getting at is:
-if I want to listen to a CD for example,
- if nothing was on, it needs to turn on the CD player and the receiver but
- if previous to that I was watching TV, the same function needs to turn on the CD player, the receiver but also turn off the TV (if it knows that the TV was on)
Can it do that?


Yes, that is exactly what it does. When you power down everything, all your "activities" are listed, such as watch TV, listen to CD, etc. When you activate one of these, it turns on the components you programmed it to turn on. You can then press the "activity" button on the remote to go to another activity, say, watch a Blu-ray. The remote will turn on the BD player, turn off the cable box (if you use one for TV) and will switch the input in the receiver (or TV) as well. You can even program what order you want things powered on or off. They really are very cool. I have an older 520 I have had for years, and I just purchased an 880 about four months back on a good deal. Both are great.

EDIT: As far as how loud the Denon will play... Well, I just listened to a two hour concert DVD at just below what I would consider a reference level for me (wife is home, hehe) which equates to about -12 on the level... And the receiver is luke warm at best.


Edited by Potatohead (01/19/10 01:16 AM)

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#287523 - 01/19/10 07:49 AM Re: Learning to use my Denon AVR-890 [Re: bdpf]
onn Offline
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Registered: 02/28/08
Posts: 910
Loc: Edmonton Alberta
Yes it can.
I have my bluray player, DVD player, Sattilite box and Apple TV set up like this. When you program the remote you tell it which components you want turned on for each item ( watching TV, Listening to music, watching a bluray, etc). So if your watching TV and decide you want to listen to some tunes you just push the button you have programmed for listening to music and the remote will turn off the equipment not required and turn on those that are.
Mel
For the Harmony one at least
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#287527 - 01/19/10 09:02 AM Re: Learning to use my Denon AVR-890 [Re: bdpf]
Sloped Offline
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Registered: 12/17/08
Posts: 110
Loc: Fonthill
 Originally Posted By: bdpf
For those of you that have the harmony remote, does it keep track of which devices are on or off at anytime? What I am getting at is:
-if I want to listen to a CD for example,
- if nothing was on, it needs to turn on the CD player and the receiver but
- if previous to that I was watching TV, the same function needs to turn on the CD player, the receiver but also turn off the TV (if it knows that the TV was on)
Can it do that?


The remote does keep track of on/off for all devices assuming you use the remote to change the state of the device. I know I'm stating the obvious since it's one way communication. The nice part is, when you program an activity, if one of the devices didn't get the signal right you simply press the activity again and it will send the startup routine again. eg:just power on, not cycle.

If you switch activities, say watch DVD and you were already watching TV, it will keep all the equipment you need on still and only turn off the items you wish. IIRC, this is a configurable option in the software.

The other great feature that may be of use to you is a help key. Yep, a help key. How is of use to you? I'll assume other people such as a babysitter, wife, girlfriend (all three ) will use the remote. If at anytime something doesn't go right in the sequence because they weren't pointing it right or some other interference, they can press the help key and it will walk them through simple questions pertaining to that activity to try and correct the problem. Is the TV on, is the DVD on, Is the TV on HDMI 1 input etc......

It's probably obvious, but I'm a fan.

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#287528 - 01/19/10 09:55 AM Re: Learning to use my Denon AVR-890 [Re: Sloped]
bdpf Offline
aficionado

Registered: 06/28/08
Posts: 769
Loc: Toronto, Canada
That's it! I have to get myself one of those! I know that a lot of people recommend the One but it's a bit pricey. How do the other ones perform, like 620, 700, 880 or 890 (even though I don't need the RF for now)? Is the One worth the extra $$$ ?
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M80s/VP180/QS8s/EP600/AVR-890
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#287533 - 01/19/10 11:19 AM Re: Learning to use my Denon AVR-890 [Re: bdpf]
CatBrat Offline
axiomite

Registered: 08/05/09
Posts: 5908
Loc: Milky Way Galaxy
I'm thinking about getting the 1100. It's currently priced at about $320. Anyone have experience with this one?

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