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#290794 - 02/05/10 10:58 PM Re: M80V2 and Tube Amps......... [Re: JohnK]
photonblur Offline
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Registered: 10/27/06
Posts: 23
JohnK,

A correctly designed speaker is slave to the source. If that
source is a "colored" tube effect, warmth in warmth out.

Peace,

PB.

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#290796 - 02/05/10 11:05 PM Re: M80V2 and Tube Amps......... [Re: photonblur]
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6720
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

Have ya thought about a tube preamp with a big ss amp? I considered this some time ago but never did it.
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#290800 - 02/05/10 11:10 PM Re: M80V2 and Tube Amps......... [Re: photonblur]
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You are the one that said the M80's DON't cut the bill. Show me in these graphs from the Ti series or the V2 series where it drops below even 4 ohms, um, NOT.




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#290801 - 02/05/10 11:11 PM Re: M80V2 and Tube Amps......... [Re: photonblur]
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Of course; but the point is that there is no such effect necessarily.
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#290806 - 02/05/10 11:18 PM Re: M80V2 and Tube Amps......... [Re: Ken.C]
photonblur Offline
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Registered: 10/27/06
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Kcarlile,

I have had M80V2s for about 4 yrs. Two channel, amp is a
NAD C372. Upgradeitis has struck. Wanted the emotiva xpa-2
but have read conflicting reports. Intrigued by the Axiom
A1400-2, discouraged by the price. Recently read a thread
started by audiosavant on this site. Knowledgeable fellow
considering M80V2s with a ridiculously low powered tube amp.
Got me to exploring what's up with tubes. The salespitch
is a "warm" sound field with better dynamics at lower volumes
than solid state. I have fond memories of smokey evenings
35 years ago enveloped by magical Mcintosh sounds. How much
of this is embellished memories versus reality is open to
question. Never the less I'd like my next upgrade to be my
last upgrade so I'm exploring all possibilites. I am ready to make
a major purchase and everything is in play. Time to go watch
Fringe with the Mrs. Anyone else think that scotch is just
bad bourbon?

Peace,

PB

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#290810 - 02/05/10 11:31 PM Re: M80V2 and Tube Amps......... [Re: photonblur]
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PB, you do crack me up, and I hope you stay around on the forum, your very interesting and I may learn a little from you, I've never owned tube amps...

Wyred4Sound might be a company, or Odyssey Audio, if your looking for kick ass amps that don't break the retirement plan.
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#290813 - 02/05/10 11:36 PM Re: M80V2 and Tube Amps......... [Re: SirQuack]
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Registered: 01/11/10
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Loc: Victoria, Australia
I have a tube amp with my Orpheus Aurora 3s - purely for 2 channell audio and absolutely love it - particularly with the vocals or anything classical really.

I haven't hooked up my axioms (M22s) to the cayin, purely because they're in another room and I bought them for the HT room and the occasional musical theatrics.

For anyone who is seriously into classical sounds, I would suggest taking at look at the tube amps. It sure opened up my ears. It wouldn't be for everyone, admittedly.
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#290814 - 02/05/10 11:37 PM Re: M80V2 and Tube Amps......... [Re: SirQuack]
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Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.
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#290815 - 02/05/10 11:39 PM Re: M80V2 and Tube Amps......... [Re: Wid]
Wid Offline
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Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.
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#290819 - 02/05/10 11:40 PM Re: M80V2 and Tube Amps......... [Re: SirQuack]
photonblur Offline
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Registered: 10/27/06
Posts: 23
Sir Quack,

Please. Breathe deep and rhythmically. I never meant to imply
the M80s are anything less than a great value. I actually
bought them and have been enjoying them. For whatever reason
they do seem to appeal to the "high wattage set". I recall
a recent quote from an axiom engineer that an axiom a1400-2
would permit you to enjoy the full dynamics of the M80s.
That's fine. I might buy that amp. There are other audio
camps that discuss tube friendly speakers that in my granted
limited research do not recommend Axiom type speakers. Not
many posters on the Axiom site mention using their speakers
with tube amps. The only recommendations for amps from
Axiom that I have seen are for solid state. Before I take
the plunge into a mega solid state amp, be it emotiva, axiom,
or whatever, I will listen to the tube M80 combo. I am con-
vinced that the M80s with a mega solid state amp achieve a
reference level. I'm not convinced the same is true paired
with a tube amp. I'm open to the possibility that I'm wrong.

Peace,

PB

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