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#292334 - 02/15/10 12:47 PM
Re: Maybe Al Gore is onto something...
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axiomite
Registered: 10/05/06
Posts: 6167
Loc: PEI, Canada
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True, but I try to overcome my natural desire to want to make the joke to be universally accurate because then it loses it's humor.
Actually, I just like posting Snicker Dog.
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#292358 - 02/15/10 05:45 PM
Re: Maybe Al Gore is onto something...
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connoisseur
Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 1200
Loc: Fishers, Indiana, USA
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LT said it before me... Snow on the ground in 49/50 states for the 1st time on record... Should we be pumping more carbon into the atmosphere to counterbalance the effect?  We (as the human race) are so small in comparison to this world. Even if a country like the USA, or Canada, China, or whomever decides to make cuts in carbon output, it will never make a real difference. Natural emissions are so much larger.
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#292365 - 02/15/10 05:59 PM
Re: Maybe Al Gore is onto something...
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buff
Registered: 01/13/10
Posts: 43
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
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We (as the human race) are so small in comparison to this world. Even if a country like the USA, or Canada, China, or whomever decides to make cuts in carbon output, it will never make a real difference. Natural emissions are so much larger. Have you ever flown over land and looked out the window? I've flown from Brisbane to Perth here in Australia and theres hardly a single square mile of the land that hasn't been dramatically changed by humans. All of it has been cut into squares and leveled of its native vegetation and filled with things that we either find tasty, useful or both. Australia has a much smaller population than the US (22M v. 308M), but doesn't have dramatically less land (7.6M km^2 v. 9.8M km^2). Its not *just* about emissions from tailpipes and smoke stacks, thats just part of it.
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#292368 - 02/15/10 06:17 PM
Re: Maybe Al Gore is onto something...
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connoisseur
Registered: 11/29/06
Posts: 1027
Loc: New Orleans, LA
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... cuts in carbon output, ... will never make a real difference. Natural emissions are so much larger. Oh, how true. Methane is 10X as potent as CO2 on a lb/lb basis, yet few landfills are equipped for methane recovery and no cows that I'm aware of have [collection devices installed] (sorry, couldn't say the real thing) to recoup what the cows output naturally. How much US taxpayer money was spent on methane monitoring due to cow flatulence?? Scott
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#292369 - 02/15/10 06:21 PM
Re: Maybe Al Gore is onto something...
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shareholder in the making
Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 15984
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
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LT said it before me... Snow on the ground in 49/50 states for the 1st time on record... Should we be pumping more carbon into the atmosphere to counterbalance the effect?  We (as the human race) are so small in comparison to this world. Even if a country like the USA, or Canada, China, or whomever decides to make cuts in carbon output, it will never make a real difference. Natural emissions are so much larger. What you say is true, to a point. Natural emissions are much larger than human-caused emissions. But that's only part of the picture. Natural carbon emissions are also absorbed naturally (primarily by plants and the ocean). Nature has evolved to a point where the emission and absorption systems are in balance. The carbon emissions human add to the mix are too much for nature to absorb. About 60% of our emissions end up in the atmosphere. Source: http://www.skepticalscience.com/human-co2-smaller-than-natural-emissions.htm
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#292370 - 02/15/10 06:32 PM
Re: Maybe Al Gore is onto something...
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axiomite
Registered: 12/27/08
Posts: 6392
Loc: It's all about the location.
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Livestock are more responsible for greenhouse gases than all forms of transportation in the world combined according to the UN and Food and Agricultural Organization.
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#292380 - 02/15/10 06:54 PM
Re: Maybe Al Gore is onto something...
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buff
Registered: 01/13/10
Posts: 43
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
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Livestock are more responsible for greenhouse gases than all forms of transportation in the world combined according to the UN and Food and Agricultural Organization. Factual statement is factual. What are you getting at?
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#292384 - 02/15/10 07:08 PM
Re: Maybe Al Gore is onto something...
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axiomite
Registered: 12/27/08
Posts: 6392
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What I'm getting at is that if we're going to solve any problem you first need to identify it correctly then proceed from there with honest information to the public. The scientist providing the information should remain neutral, with NO agenda, other than to provide the true facts....no filling in the blanks, no removing facts which don't support a particular viewpoint.
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