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#292522 - 02/16/10 10:50 AM Re: You're very first post.... [Re: DaveG]
CatBrat Offline
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Registered: 08/05/09
Posts: 5801
Loc: Some random location
 Originally Posted By: CatBrat
This is my first post here. I was looking for speakers at Best Buy, and the best they had to offer in the computer dept was some Bose Companion 5's. Almost bought them before I noticed the Axiom speakers. I was going for the Audiobytes with EPZero, then decided to upgrade subwoofer to EP125. Now thinking about also upgrading the satelites to M2 or M3, but need a 2.1 amplifer to go from computer to satelites with an unamplified subwoofer conection. With this, I'm already at $705 USD, and don't want to spend a whole lot more. Anybody out there know of a good little amp for this purpose?


I just finished with my first computer build and was looking for some decent speakers. The problem is I got stuck in upgraditous mode for computer speakers until the price got to over $1000, at which point I just took the better ones I had on my computer at work and used them at home. Cost $zero.

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#292530 - 02/16/10 11:25 AM Re: You're very first post.... [Re: CatBrat]
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Registered: 01/03/06
Posts: 680
Loc: South Florida
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Hello all! My HT has been untouched for quite a few years and I recently got the 'bug' to upgrade. I'm considering starting off with m80/denon 3805 purchase. I'm hoping someone out there is familiar with the older Infinity Kappa series speakers and how they might compare with the M80's. I have the original Kappa 8's, a large 4-way speaker with 12" woofers, being driven (poorly) by an older Yamaha RV-1100 receiver. (Kappas are very power-hungry). Anyway I recently compared them to some Boston Acoustics VR3's I heard in a Best Buy Magnolia Theatre store, because of their crisp highs and 'forward' sound as compared to the Definitive Technologies 7002's that were in the same room, and that I was considering up to that point. Let me also add that I have a Def Tech PF15 subwoofer that I plan to keep.
First off, I don't consider myself an audiophile, and don't proport to know whether I'm hearing something that's 'warm' as opposed to 'sibilant', or other terms I've read that I frankly don't know how to apply. I am however a musician (part-time now), and obviously know what is pleasing to my ears.
I hooked up the VR3's to the B set of terminals on the Yamaha and started comparing minus the sub. The 1st thing I noticed, other than the obvious efficiency difference, was the crisp highs I heard at the store seemed poor when compared with the Kappas, which surprised me. I'd say that the imaging and the 'forward' sound were traits I liked about the VR3's, but the midrange (especially vocals) was MUCH too prominant and unnatural when compared to the Kappas. Although I bought the Kappas (almost 20yrs ago now) beacuse of their high definition and natural sound which they do great job of, I was never satisfied with the bass 'punchiness' of the speaker, perhaps partially due to the speakers' inefficiency. The sub helps, but I haven't been able to get quite the results I want.

Anyway, I'd love to hear from some Axiom owners with some suggestions as to what I might expect with the m80/3805 combo as an upgrade to what I have, even if it's just to say ...just try em!

Thx!



My 1st post was I thread I started...since then I got Outlaw monos, a PB-13... and I gave the old Def-Tech sub away as a Christmas gift! I still have the EP-500... not being used!

I still have the big Kappa 8's stored here in my computer room. I'll have to get off my lazy ass and put em on ebay soon... it would have to be for local pick-up because of their size. But, I ramble...
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#292535 - 02/16/10 11:53 AM Re: You're very first post.... [Re: CatBrat]
Micah Offline
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Registered: 11/16/08
Posts: 1789
Loc: Indiana you hoser!!!!
 Originally Posted By: CatBrat


I just finished with my first computer build and was looking for some decent speakers. The problem is I got stuck in upgraditous mode for computer speakers until the price got to over $1000, at which point I just took the better ones I had on my computer at work and used them at home. Cost $zero.



Well I have a set of M80's, a set of QS8's, a VP150 and an EP800 hooked up to my computer along with a 65 inch monitor... BEAT THAT!!!


Haha, just kidding. It is awful nice having the computer hooked up to the HT though I must admit. Because like you, I would have probably constantly swapped up for better performance until I'd purchased another Epic 80/800 system just for it!!! \:o
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#292536 - 02/16/10 11:57 AM Re: You're very first post.... [Re: Micah]
Listener Offline
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Registered: 09/05/08
Posts: 268
Loc: CT, US
Spoiler you're not using the ep500? Is the PB13 that much better?
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#292540 - 02/16/10 12:01 PM Re: You're very first post.... [Re: Spoiler]
Micah Offline
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Registered: 11/16/08
Posts: 1789
Loc: Indiana you hoser!!!!
 Originally Posted By: Spoiler


My 1st post was I thread I started...since then I got Outlaw monos, a PB-13... and I gave the old Def-Tech sub away as a Christmas gift! I still have the EP-500... not being used!

I still have the big Kappa 8's stored here in my computer room. I'll have to get off my lazy ass and put em on ebay soon... it would have to be for local pick-up because of their size. But, I ramble...



Ummm... squeeze me? Baking powder??? You have a $1250 dollar subwoofer laying around NOT being used??? You'd better have a damn good reason for this pal, this is subwoofer neglect, a crime punishable by death in a few of the more strict dimensions out there! Now out with it, how can this be???


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#292542 - 02/16/10 12:05 PM Re: You're very first post.... [Re: Listener]
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Registered: 08/05/09
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According to this review, the frequency response of the PB13 isn't very flat.

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#292547 - 02/16/10 12:21 PM Re: You're very first post.... [Re: CatBrat]
jakewash Offline
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Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 10398
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
That is an in room FR and means his room has some issues like all of ours. I would look to Hometheatershack and Ilka's testing at 15hz tune my prefered setting.

We managed to derail yet another thread

my first post:

 Originally Posted By: jakewash
Which would you choose. The Yamaha HTR5660 or the Denon 1804? I have QS4 rears and vp100 center. My bose 201 mains are to be replaced by m22's very soon. I also hope to upgrade my sub next year. The room my HT system is in is only 12x16. Any thoughts on this set up are appreciated.


That sub was never replaced until a couple years ago


Edited by jakewash (02/16/10 12:26 PM)
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#292549 - 02/16/10 12:26 PM Re: You're very first post.... [Re: CatBrat]
Argon Offline
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Registered: 07/24/04
Posts: 1443
Loc: Oak Ridge, NC
 Originally Posted By: Argon
I am dredging up an older thread here as I have been researching for future purchases. Ratpack made a comment that no one should consider doing upscale or upconversion through their receiver. Intuitively, that sounds reasonable to me. However, I have also done some research on another forum, AVS, and there are several threads there with throngs of followers dedicated to receivers like the Denon 3806 and the Yamaha 2600. The hook seems to be the upscale to 1080i. That brings me to the question - with these new receivers, has there been a change in the "best" or "preferred" method of upscaling? I have cable now but not digital cable. I don't have a new tv but that would be a future purchase. I like the new SXRD Sonys - would they better handle the upscaling or upconversion. I have a lot of uncertainties - hoping to clear them up here - and I never like to walk into a large purchase (particularly audio/video) unless I know at least as much or more than the salesman.


Apparently, I lurked for about a year and a half prior to this first post - where I was beginning the build of my system. Starting with a Receiver then TV then speakers. Date of the post was 1/30/06. First person to answer me was.......JohnK.
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#292550 - 02/16/10 12:34 PM Re: You're very first post.... [Re: CatBrat]
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Registered: 01/03/06
Posts: 680
Loc: South Florida

Momentary thread derail time! \:\) Catbrat... that response curve is in that particular room with the PB13. Virtually any sub would have an uneven response curve depending on the room and where it's placed. I've got an SMS-1 as well and the curve was all over the place with both the PB13 and EP500 at first.

I bought the PB13 back in the Mojo days for those of you who remember....we traded many PM's when he was comparing the PB13 to the EP600. The EP500 is an outstanding sub... but for me the PB13 was worth upgrading (admittedly, factoring in the BIG hassle of shipping it back \:\) ) I could use the EP500 as a second sub, but evening the room response a little more isn't really a factor for me since I'm usually the only listener. The bass here is very nice, thank you. \:D

So I'm torn as to keeping it or not. PM me if you'd like more info.
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#292551 - 02/16/10 12:34 PM Re: You're very first post.... [Re: ClubNeon]
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Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16259
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
I have a Vitamix 5000 and can testify that it can, indeed, heat liquids to steaming hot.

I got mine as a late (by 3 years!) wedding present from a family friend. \:\)
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