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#296691 - 03/15/10 01:44 PM Re: Floorstanding vs Suuround and adding Amp [Re: Micah]
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Micah, he has the M22 on it's way. \:\)
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#296714 - 03/15/10 02:23 PM Re: Floorstanding vs Suuround and adding Amp [Re: jakewash]
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Supah sweet! ;\)
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#296745 - 03/15/10 03:52 PM Re: Floorstanding vs Suuround and adding Amp [Re: jakewash]
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
I also really like the M22 as a center, I was still under the impression the vertical center wasn't going to work for you.


Since it can be used vertically as a center Im going to give it a try.. I thought a center had to be a center and lay horizontal lol

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#296749 - 03/15/10 04:03 PM Re: Floorstanding vs Suuround and adding Amp [Re: Micah]
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 Originally Posted By: Micah


However if it doesn't bother you any and you prefer the sound of your other center then don't let any theoretical or otherwise issues with tonal differences convince you that it's somehow inadequate. Just trust your ear, if it sounds ok to you then damn conventional wisdom... call it 'custom'! ;\)


Listening to my other center with the 80s is an improvement over what I was getting with the 150. Seems I lost some panning affect though. If the 22 doesnt suit me I will keep the center I have now.

Seems tones change from speaker to speaker anyway. For example if a car is driving by and it starts at left speaker and goes right, sound lower lower in left, louder in center as car is in middle screen, and fades in sound in right speaker as car gets on down the road. make sense?

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#296750 - 03/15/10 04:04 PM Re: Floorstanding vs Suuround and adding Amp [Re: Zask]
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 Originally Posted By: Zask

Since it can be used vertically as a center Im going to give it a try.. I thought a center had to be a center and lay horizontal lol


That’s a very common misconception because of the way HT sound systems are marketed. Here’s a good discussion of HT sound systems and why looking for alternative options can pay off:

http://www.soundstage.com/surrounded/surrounded200307.htm

When unconstrained by norms lots of options are available:

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthre...true#Post219121

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#296751 - 03/15/10 04:12 PM Re: Floorstanding vs Suuround and adding Amp [Re: Zask]
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 Originally Posted By: Zask

Seems tones change from speaker to speaker anyway. For example if a car is driving by and it starts at left speaker and goes right, sound lower lower in left, louder in center as car is in middle screen, and fades in sound in right speaker as car gets on down the road. make sense?

For a tonal difference there's not much you can do except try a different speaker but it sounds like you might have to much boost in the centre too, have you tried lowering the centre by a couple of db's just to be sure?
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#296839 - 03/16/10 12:56 PM Re: Floorstanding vs Suuround and adding Amp [Re: Adrian]
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I second that motion. Either turn the center down a tad, or turn the L/R mains up until they seem to match a little better.

What you describe sounds more like leveling issues than tonal changes, unless we're mistaking your meaning?
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#296959 - 03/16/10 09:37 PM Re: Floorstanding vs Suuround and adding Amp [Re: Adrian]
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
 Originally Posted By: Zask

Seems tones change from speaker to speaker anyway. For example if a car is driving by and it starts at left speaker and goes right, sound lower lower in left, louder in center as car is in middle screen, and fades in sound in right speaker as car gets on down the road. make sense?

For a tonal difference there's not much you can do except try a different speaker but it sounds like you might have to much boost in the centre too, have you tried lowering the centre by a couple of db's just to be sure?



Sorry I didn't explain that well. I have the speakers calibrated. I meant the tone and volume changes in the sound track it self from speaker to speaker most times.

A car passing by on the tv from left to to right speaker, the tones and volumes differ, right? A car passing and it fades in right speaker is louder then when it was in the middle of the screen. Also the tone changes because the car was close now its far.. The canter I have now I cant really tell a big diff and its a Klipsch because of this. But I have no audio philly ear either

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#297014 - 03/17/10 02:16 AM Re: Floorstanding vs Suuround and adding Amp [Re: Zask]
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Actually you will get tonal differences between identical speakers because of placement differences in almost every situation. The reason identical speakers are recommended for up front for HT (all around for music) when possible is to help minimize this by not adding difference between the speakers to the mix which in turn gets amplified by the room.

That’s not to say there are ever differences between channels on the soundtrack but those mastering the sound tracks usually try to prevent that.
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#297088 - 03/17/10 01:18 PM Re: Floorstanding vs Suuround and adding Amp [Re: grunt]
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 Originally Posted By: grunt
Actually you will get tonal differences between identical speakers because of placement differences in almost every situation. The reason identical speakers are recommended for up front for HT (all around for music) when possible is to help minimize this by not adding difference between the speakers to the mix which in turn gets amplified by the room.



I use it 99% for watching movies,Judge Judy, and Golf lol.. The Klipsch sounds pretty good with the 80s to me. I am surprised because of the difference in design.

Im still gonna give the 22 a shot, if I dont like it im satisfied with the center im using \:\)

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