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#298921 - 03/28/10 01:26 AM 2 Channel - Turntable up and spinning
2x6spds Offline
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Registered: 03/16/02
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Loc: CA, USA
Well, I was worried. I ordered from Music Direct an MMF 2.2LE turntable, made by Pro-Ject in Czechoslovakia. Then I heard a Project Debut III at Magnolia and it sure sounded like total crap. So, I figured maybe this was a bust of an idea.

Last night after help from my good friend, I got to listen to some Marvin Gay, Miami Vice, on the Kenwood KA 9100, the MMF and the Dahlquist DQM905s, modified Kenwood SW300 subwoofer (only the cabinet is Kenwood anymore) and a pair of supertweeters. I was very pleased. We went back and forth between a CDP and the table (different material) and the records sound great.

today, some Frank Sinatra, Leonard Cohen, and Frank Zappa Hot Rats.

There is something liquid about vinyl as opposed to CDs. After my tube amp is repaired, I look forward to hearing the vinyl/tube combination.

The KA9100 has a reputation for a wonderful phone preamp section. It is well deserved.
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#298924 - 03/28/10 02:08 AM Re: 2 Channel - Turntable up and spinning [Re: 2x6spds]
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Yes, it's a quite noticeable phenomenon that the fascination with one obsolescent audio technology(LP recordings)almost inevitably leads to another(tube amplification).
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#298926 - 03/28/10 03:03 AM Re: 2 Channel - Turntable up and spinning [Re: JohnK]
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It's the music, JohnK. If I had to guess, you have no personal experience with a good tube system whether or not it's connected to a good turntable. If you did, you not just dismiss this audio technology as "obsolescent."

But then again, you welcomed a fellow who reports that he enjoys his new Axiom 2 channel system with the following statement:

"...there's no good reason to voluntarily restrict yourself to "good old stereo"(I never do anymore)when you have a surround setup."

Oh, I remember now, "Laugh at Folks Who Claim to Know it All."
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#298945 - 03/28/10 08:27 AM Re: 2 Channel - Turntable up and spinning [Re: 2x6spds]
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Hot Rats on vinyl... that's good stuff!

For all out there that think vinyl is obsolete...

I played Genesis' 'The Lambs Lies Down On Broadway' on a remastered cd for friends who didn't really know the music (young).

They thought it was great. Then I played it for them on vinyl.

It blew us all away! So much more depth and punch and richness.

The contrast is quite stark.

As much as I love dvd audio (and it is amazing), analog playback still cannot be beat.

And I purposely left out 16 bit cds in that statement, cause they are inferior to vinyl and dvd in every way.

Anyone who says otherwise does not own a decent turntable. \:\)
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#299002 - 03/28/10 12:55 PM Re: 2 Channel - Turntable up and spinning [Re: audiosavant]
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 Originally Posted By: audiosavant
And I purposely left out 16 bit cds in that statement, cause they are inferior to vinyl and dvd in every way.


Sound quality debate notwithstanding, you can't say "in every way" when DVD usually means turning on the screen, which can be inconvenient, and vinyl is larger, which can be inconvenient. Ha ha.

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#299008 - 03/28/10 01:07 PM Re: 2 Channel - Turntable up and spinning [Re: CV]
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the thing about vinyl is OCD behavior its promotes. Rituals - cleaning the records, careful handling like passing a kidney between surgeons, the sleeves, the stacking, keeping them out of the sunshine .... pain in the you know what,

but, you know what? it's worth it. the sound is beautiful, like audiosavant said, lush, rich, liquid or something like that ...
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#299010 - 03/28/10 01:20 PM Re: 2 Channel - Turntable up and spinning [Re: 2x6spds]
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 Originally Posted By: 2x6spds
the thing about vinyl is OCD behavior its promotes. Rituals - cleaning the records, careful handling like passing a kidney between surgeons, the sleeves, the stacking, keeping them out of the sunshine .... pain in the you know what


That's one of the major reasons I don't give vinyl a try. I don't really like my every interaction with it potentially degrading the sound. I would love to hear some of the vinyl setups people talk about, but it would take quite a revelation for me to invest in analog gear for myself.

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#299086 - 03/28/10 06:01 PM Re: 2 Channel - Turntable up and spinning [Re: CV]
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Did you know that wood glue is a great way to clean your LPs? No need to spend money on special sprays and expensive cleaners. Just spread wood glue, allow it to dry, and peel it off.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99837
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#299091 - 03/28/10 06:31 PM Re: 2 Channel - Turntable up and spinning [Re: pmbuko]
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Registered: 03/16/02
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Loc: CA, USA
Yes, of course if you play the reverse mask you can hear "Paul is dead," which would be worth the effort.
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#299096 - 03/28/10 07:31 PM Re: 2 Channel - Turntable up and spinning [Re: 2x6spds]
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6720
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

Congrats on the turntable rig, nice to hear it worked out for ya. I need to find a suitable stand (just for the TT) so as to get the TT rig back up and running.

I like to sit a enjoy some vinyl at times.
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