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#302166 - 04/16/10 12:40 PM Re: Axiom Audio Releases On-wall Speakers [Re: ClubNeon]
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Thanks for the info, Chris. It stands to reason that measuring an on-wall type speaker would require a variation of the standard anechoic testing.
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#302170 - 04/16/10 01:12 PM Re: Axiom Audio Releases On-wall Speakers [Re: Adrian]
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile

Why on earth are we arguing about this?


Cause you both stayed at the AVS forum last night. ;\)
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#302171 - 04/16/10 01:15 PM Re: Axiom Audio Releases On-wall Speakers [Re: grunt]
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 Originally Posted By: ClubNeon

I know there is a protocol for it. Not sure of the specifics of the build of the wall, but it's probably to contribute as little as possible to the FR of the speaker. The test is referred to as π anechoic, where as the normal test is 2π anechoic. That's because pi (π) radians is 180°.


Thanks Chris. It only makes sense that they would test the speaker within it’s specific design parameters. It would still be interesting and IMO useful to see FR graphs of the various in/on wall designs.
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#302174 - 04/16/10 01:19 PM Re: Axiom Audio Releases On-wall Speakers [Re: Ken.C]
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
Why on earth are we arguing about this?


I'm arguing the point because I care. I have a great deal of respect for Audioholics as a audio/video media outlet and Axiom as a company and what each of them stands for. I also think it is silly to be critical of "first looks" of products that offer no objective value and are normally puff pieces that don't always have complete information of the final product. Product reviews on the other hand are a different story.

Audioholics was also influential in the branding of Axiom and exposure to the benefits of the internet business model - when this was quite new and still intimidating to the consumer. Audioholics offered Axiom with a great deal of exposure that trickled down into many other media outlets. They were certainly one of the major players to the marketing of the Axiom brand and the audio ID model in general. Much of the virality of Axiom products was during their M3 shootout, M22 and Epic 80 review in early 2000-2004 periods. So while you might not like audioholics as a media outlet, part of what Axiom is today and the exposure they receive is because of them.
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#302187 - 04/16/10 02:34 PM Re: Axiom Audio Releases On-wall Speakers [Re: BlueJays1]
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At this point, all I'm arguing is the definition of "inaccurate." Whatever, I'm done.
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#302191 - 04/16/10 02:45 PM Re: Axiom Audio Releases On-wall Speakers [Re: Ken.C]
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Now. Both of you go to your rooms.
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#302192 - 04/16/10 02:46 PM Re: Axiom Audio Releases On-wall Speakers [Re: Adrian]
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#302193 - 04/16/10 02:47 PM Re: Axiom Audio Releases On-wall Speakers [Re: Adrian]
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
Now. Both of you go to your rooms.

Except the one who is wrong. You, go to the square room!


Edited by MarkSJohnson (04/16/10 02:50 PM)
Edit Reason: added quote because stupid JP posted first and now it's not so obvious that I was referring to Adrian's post. Stupid JP.
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#302242 - 04/17/10 12:09 AM Re: Axiom Audio Releases On-wall Speakers [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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#302320 - 04/18/10 01:53 PM Re: Axiom Audio Releases On-wall Speakers [Re: Micah]
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So, does the onwall M22 have a different tweeter than the current M22 bookshelf or not?? I didn't see a reply, but may have missed it.
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