I expected the crossovers needing to be changed to account for wall boundary. I guess I will just have to try it myself sometime or take the easy way out and just order another set of M22s and then use them in the garage.

So will there be change over to the new titanium dome/crossover on the existing M-Series thats used on the on-wall versions in the future? If so, that would certainly account for a V3.

Or do the V2 versions already have the new titanium dome?

The conversation we had with Ian was in regards to the M80's. Basically, a lot of parts to swap and it becomes expensive. M22's on the other hand.....

I have M22 V2's, and the new on wall 22's have a much better (to me anyway) upper end. I absolutely love the upper end of the on walls. Somehow they are both very detailed and smooth at the same time. I did not think this was possible.

So do the M-v2 models have different titanium dome tweeters than the new on wall versions?

I was quite impressed with the upper end of the on walls. I suspect that for those who purchase them it will be a very good idea to play with placement before securing them, and also play with crossover point. Certainly they do not have the bass that the bookshelves have, at least where I put them (very high on the wall, with no testing before I mounted them.)

I copied this message here from another place I posted it, because it goes along with this thread also.

I received the on-wall M22's today and got them installed, except for hiding the wires in the wall. To do that, I need an RF remote first so I can move all of the electronics and wires to the other side of the wall into a closet.

Cons: Less bass. Noticeable especially in music.

Pros: Better sound stage, possible because they are spaced a little further than I had them before and higher nearer the screen. I like the sound. One of the things I wanted with the bookshelf M22's was better highs. These have what I was looking for. Also they sound better than the bookshelf M22's paired with the VP100, nearly a seamless transition.

Can't wait to get a sub and see what kind of difference that makes.


Edit: almost forgot the picture.



Edit: Oh and one more thing, there is 47 inches between the speakers. I can move up from a 37 to a 47 inch tv which is about 46 inches wide.

I sure wish the wall color would reproduce correctly. It actually looks like a dark orange.

Ok this question is a little out of place in this thread, but not terribly so... I'm wondering for those of us who recieved brand new EP800's with the new amps installed... are they now the EP800v2?

There has been atleast 2 significant amp re-designs that I am aware of that have been posted on here. A v2 designation would certainly seem appropriate.

We spent quite a while talking about the EP800 on the last call, but no one mentioned that designation. If I remember, I'll mention it on the next one.

BTW, CB, for what it's worth, I feel that the on-wall M22s require a sub, and one crossed fairly high, at that.