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#313684 - 07/07/10 07:29 PM Re: VP180 First Impressions [Re: Ken.C]
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
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After trying Axiom QS series I could never imagine going back to monopole speakers as surrounds. They are that good.
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#313685 - 07/07/10 07:45 PM Re: Oh No..... [Re: solarrdadd]
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Originally Posted By: solarrdadd
thanks for your suggestion but i really like direct speakers for surrounds.

Keep in mind the QS8s ARE direct....none of the drivers are out of phase....
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#313686 - 07/07/10 07:59 PM Re: Oh No..... [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Exactly Mark, direct radiating speakers can't provide the same experience as the orginal movie engineers intended. The Q's were designed to simulate multiple direct radiating speakers that are lined along the walls of cinema's, all in one speaker. Once a person gives them a test, they will realize how superior they perform to bookshelfs.
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#313693 - 07/07/10 09:21 PM Re: VP180 First Impressions [Re: Ken.C]
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Loc: Alexandria, VA
Originally Posted By: kcarlile
I'd probably use M22s for surrounds if you've simply got to have monopoles--they're more closely matched to the M80s than the M3s.


they are taller than the TSi200's i have already and i can't move the brackets that the current speakers are own so they won't fit because of the ceiling. in the space that i'm using them i suspect that the M3's will do a great job as i think that while they are smaller than the TSi200 speaker, the M3 outclasses the older TSi200 with refined design and technology and i'm liking that it too has the upgraded V3 package so it will match and i'll still get plenty of surround sound out of it. if i could have made it fit, i would have used the M22 but i suspect that in the size room i'm in the M3 will be perfect and give more clarity in sound content than the current TSi200 can in a smaller package. but thank you just the same for your recommendation and believe me, i did look at that first because it so reminded me of the TSi200 but for me that smaller M3 will outpace the TSi200 speaker.
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#313698 - 07/07/10 10:00 PM Re: Oh No..... [Re: solarrdadd]
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Okay, but just to note that you can use the bi-wire cables on the present VP180 simply by using just one wire of each(black and red)pair.
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#313699 - 07/07/10 10:02 PM Re: VP180 First Impressions [Re: solarrdadd]
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Another suggestion would be to order both the M3s and QS8s and give them both a try and just return the QS8s if you still prefer the M3s. I doubt the shipping would be that expensive and might be worth it to you to compare both. Just an idea...
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#313712 - 07/07/10 11:10 PM Re: VP180 First Impressions [Re: JohnK]
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Originally Posted By: JohnK
Okay, but just to note that you can use the bi-wire cables on the present VP180 simply by using just one wire of each(black and red)pair.


you are correct but, i don't have the space to set this monster on the floor and the place where it will go is under my tv and i have to install a steel bar accross the underside of it then slide it over it and that is what the speaker will rest on with large brackets on the back of the stand to hold the back. the steel bar will go across the entire length of the speaker like a hang glider bar. this thing is heavy and i wasn't about to go through all of that just to listen to it. and don't think i didn't think about doing it but i did and i decided i didn't want to do it more than once! remember, this thing is close to 60lbs and it has to be lifted up and slid in low. i can wait until next week.
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#313713 - 07/07/10 11:12 PM Re: VP180 First Impressions [Re: bdpf]
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Registered: 05/04/10
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Loc: Alexandria, VA
Originally Posted By: bdpf
Another suggestion would be to order both the M3s and QS8s and give them both a try and just return the QS8s if you still prefer the M3s. I doubt the shipping would be that expensive and might be worth it to you to compare both. Just an idea...


you know, i never gave that any thought, good idea. you have given me a fresh perspective, thank you. i'll keep it in mind.
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#313772 - 07/08/10 12:47 PM Re: VP180 First Impressions [Re: solarrdadd]
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Registered: 11/16/08
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Loc: Indiana you hoser!!!!
I'll put money on the outcome being that the M3's will be sent back (althought I'm sure I'll have a hard time finding anyone to bet on the M3's). Although yet another outcome could be that you'll like the Q's better than the M3's for your surrounds, but still like the M3's enough to keep them and put them in your bedroom, utility room, etc...

Someone else on here suggested if I wanted to try the M3's to get the outdoor version. That way if I didn't want it for the kids room, I could at least put them outside and enjoy music while grilling and what not. I thought that was an excellent idea. You might try the same thing. It's the same speaker, just weather proof! laugh
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#313830 - 07/08/10 09:12 PM Re: VP180 First Impressions [Re: Micah]
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Registered: 05/04/10
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Loc: Alexandria, VA
my replacement VP180v3 shipped today. they are sending me the correct (and this time checked and verified)speaker with dual binding speaker post. they are also sending me return shipping label to cover the cost of shipping the single pair of post center back. i should have it on monday or tuesday the latest then i'll have my completed v3 front 3 soundstage. those M80v3 towers are getting lonely!
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