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#31376 - 02/02/04 08:51 AM Re: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC - The Sequel
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Registered: 12/30/03
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Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
I'm a big believer in "there's a time and a place." Like mwc, I appreciate a bare breast as much as the next guy. This just wasn't the time and the place. Even many of the commercials were in bad taste. Funny as it was, I was embarrassed by the horse blowing up the woman. Not because of the subject, but because of the when and where.
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#31377 - 02/02/04 03:05 PM Re: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC - The Sequel
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Registered: 04/01/03
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Loc: Los Angeles
I'm really surprised that this whole bare breast thing has people is such an uproar. Jesus...it was a breast! Deal with it.

How can that cause this kind of uproar when something truly shocking is on EVERY week, and doesn't cause any controversey?

Is it really that bad for a child to see a breast? How on earth is that going to harm him/her?
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#31378 - 02/02/04 03:20 PM Re: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC - The Sequel
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Registered: 05/09/03
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I'd have to agree with Craig here (it was pretty tacky, but hardly offensive)....maybe this deserves a poll!


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#31379 - 02/02/04 03:28 PM Re: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC - The Sequel
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I agree with you. I simply posted it to start discussion.

HOWEVER, I do think it's up to parents to decide what material is appropriate for their children to watch. IMHO, the entire half-time show was something I wouldn't let a young child see.
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#31380 - 02/02/04 03:43 PM Re: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC - The Sequel
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True enough, I don't think I'd want my children subjected to Justin Timberlake, nudity or not!
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#31381 - 02/02/04 03:54 PM Re: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC - The Sequel
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Registered: 01/29/04
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That was very popular nationally broadcast show with many children watching. It's not appropriate for the same reason women don't walk around in church without a top on (yes, extreme example).

It is not on public television every week. The last time I watched pokemon they didn't flash boobs at me. The last cartoon did nothing of the sort. Can you imagine them showing nudity in Disney films?

If I had a kid, I wouldn't want you or anyone else saying what was bad for it. I would make decisions about that myself. I don't want MTV & CBS (maybe approved by the NFL league itself) to cause stunts like this to raise raitings. Of course they planned this whole ordeal. I think they're responding to the "look at girls in bikinis half time show." They want their raitings back in that segment.

I hated most all of the show. I thought the music was out dated. Also, the singing was terrible. But, to show a breast on national television with everyone watching during a prime time was just wrong. Plain and simple.

There is a reason they usually show nudity or whatever late at night. Also, often there are built in restrictions on TVs to prevent viewing these channels. I bet you'd have a hard time finding nudity on TV at three in the afternoon (without a dedicated porn channel). This is for a good reason. If parents want to show their kids American Pie, they can do that. But, don't subject all the kids watching to all that. (What do you say to your 9 year old boy when his friends are all around watching when he asks you about that? What would they say to each other?) Anyway, I am kind of going off in too many different directions. This could be considered a little bit of a charged topic. No offense to anyone!

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#31382 - 02/02/04 04:53 PM Re: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC - The Sequel
spiffnme Offline
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Registered: 04/01/03
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Loc: Los Angeles
In reply to:

But, don't subject all the kids watching to all that. (What do you say to your 9 year old boy when his friends are all around watching when he asks you about that? What would they say to each other?)




What are you "subjecting" them to? A breast. I'm sure all the innocent children watching the ballgame last night are going to have to go to therapy now for the rest of their lives.

What would I say if they asked about it? First off, I'm not sure what they'd ask, since there's not much to say, but if they did, I'd simply tell them that women have much larger breasts then men. Pretty straight forward stuff. I think it's far more damaging to a child to "protect" them for something as harmless as a breast. For gosh sakes, he/she was probably feeding from a breast as an infant.

Just everyone calm down for a second and let the initial rush of outrage subside, and then think rationally for a moment. What is the danger of a child seeing a bare breast. What do you really think is going to go wrong with that child if he/she sees a breast?

Blame it on the child, but I'm willing to bet the issue is really that you're simply embarrassed about it (due to your parents bringing you up that a bare breast is a terrible thing).

We're all brought up that nudity is a horrible, horrible thing. So, we believe it. (Seriously, how much of what your parents/culture has taught you have you ever really questioned?) It's not. Women have breasts. Deal with it.

If you want to get riled up, get riled up over violence on tv. Not bare breasts. (Note I didn't say "sex", because a bare breast isn't "sex".)

wow...sorry about that. Glad this is in the "off topic" forum.


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#31383 - 02/02/04 05:12 PM Re: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC - The Sequel
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Registered: 07/05/02
Posts: 1334
Loc: Ancaster, Ontario
I'd much rather have my child see a breast than some of the un-edited war footage that CNN was so proudly showing a few months ago.

Having said that, it is a very personal thing. Different people react different ways. Debates over this sort of thing will have use all acting like boobs.



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#31384 - 02/02/04 05:42 PM Re: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC - The Sequel
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Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16258
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
spiff,

I don't think anyone here is outraged. I don't think a little kid would have even given the breast a second thought because they're not attuned to look for such things (like many grown men are ).

The point I'm trying to make is that it doesn't matter whether there's damage to the child or not. I fall on the more relaxed side of the fence when it comes to what my kid will be allowed to see at certain ages, but I still think it's a parents right and duty to decide what's appropriate. CBS took that right and stomped all over it.

The fact that more and more of these kinds of "age-appropriacy" (like that word Chess?) decisions are being left to corporations is a partial explanation for the state of adolescence today.

I think this soapbox is about to collapse, so I'm steppin' down now.
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#31385 - 02/02/04 05:56 PM Re: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC - The Sequel
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Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 5214
Loc: Los Angeles
Besides...we're talking about Janet Jackson here. It probably wasn't even real anyway.


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