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#312233 - 06/27/10 11:00 PM Re: Version 3 [Re: grunt]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
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Loc: Canada
Dean, you were the one who told me the M80s sounded great compared to the Senhauser headphones you have. You also did a lot of comparison shopping and felt that, though there were better sounding speakers out there, Axiom offered the best value.

Have either of those two things somehow changed?

Context is also a usefull thing. I am willing to bet that Ian is sensitive to things in these speakers that we would never hear. There is also probably a reason that Alan is the marketing guy and Ian the designer.
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#312235 - 06/27/10 11:05 PM Re: Version 3 [Re: fredk]
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Here is another analogy for you. In the '60s my dad bought a Valiant. That thing was an amazing car. Rock solid, for the time. I would not trade my car for something with the level of riliability of that Valiant for anything. Cars have improved since then.

Its no different with the V3. This is one of those glass half empty things. You now see the V2 as a half empty glass. I see the V3 as a bigger glass.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go listen to my glass overflow with beautiful sound. wink
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#312237 - 06/27/10 11:13 PM Re: Version 3 [Re: fredk]
grunt Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
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Originally Posted By: fredk

Dean, you were the one who told me the M80s sounded great compared to the Senhauser headphones you have. You also did a lot of comparison shopping and felt that, though there were better sounding speakers out there, Axiom offered the best value.

Have either of those two things somehow changed?

Context is also a usefull thing. I am willing to bet that Ian is sensitive to things in these speakers that we would never hear. There is also probably a reason that Alan is the marketing guy and Ian the designer.


I am commenting on the review (context) and not my opinion of my speakers. Nothing has changed about my opinion of my M80s or the value they offer, nor do I have any intention of upgrading at this time.

Also note that the review I am commenting on was not written by Ian only posted by him.

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#312238 - 06/27/10 11:20 PM Re: Version 3 [Re: grunt]
fredk Offline
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OK, I'll agree that it was a bit of an odd post from a marketing perspective.
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#312239 - 06/27/10 11:20 PM Re: Version 3 [Re: fredk]
grunt Offline
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Originally Posted By: fredk
Here is another analogy for you. In the '60s my dad bought a Valiant. That thing was an amazing car. Rock solid, for the time. I would not trade my car for something with the level of riliability of that Valiant for anything. Cars have improved since then.

Its no different with the V3. This is one of those glass half empty things. You now see the V2 as a half empty glass. I see the V3 as a bigger glass.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go listen to my glass overflow with beautiful sound. wink


Iím not sure why you think I have a problem with Axiom improving itís speakers. My comments have been restricted to the impression that the review gives nothing more. I think itís great that they are making improvements itís one of the reasons I bought Axiom because of itís design philosophy and extensiveness of their own engineering and testing. Perhaps you need to re-read what Iíve said since I have in no way disparaged the M80v2 which I happily own. wink
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#312240 - 06/27/10 11:22 PM Re: Version 3 [Re: fredk]
grunt Offline
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Originally Posted By: fredk
OK, I'll agree that it was a bit of an odd post from a marketing perspective.


Yes thatís exactly the point Iím trying to make.
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#312251 - 06/28/10 12:14 AM Re: Version 3 [Re: dakkon]
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Registered: 12/26/03
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Originally Posted By: dakkon
SRoode, why not go the pre-pro route? then you can just change out the processor.
I would say due to the fact most pre/pros cost more than the 38XX series ever did (not to mention the added cost of an amp) and back then(2006/2007)lacked HDMI altogether from what I can remember before I bought my 3808.
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#312253 - 06/28/10 12:21 AM Re: Version 3 [Re: grunt]
Ken.C Online   content
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Originally Posted By: grunt

I am commenting on the review (context) and not my opinion of my speakers. Nothing has changed about my opinion of my M80s or the value they offer, nor do I have any intention of upgrading at this time.

Also note that the review I am commenting on was not written by Ian only posted by him.


Dean, I'm happy to read that clarification--I had lost some track of what you were referring to, and in amongst the background noise of the complaints and whatnot, I misinterpreted what you were saying. My apologies.

As to the customer council leaking things, what can I say--we're excited by this stuff! It's hard to stay entirely quiet, sometimes.
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#312262 - 06/28/10 12:33 AM Re: Version 3 [Re: Ken.C]
CV Offline
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Registered: 07/20/06
Posts: 11194
Loc: Richland, WA, USA
I keep browsing through the product pictures, and I'm liking the new look of the drivers more. I look forward to owning some v3 stuff later this year.

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#312265 - 06/28/10 12:39 AM Re: Version 3 [Re: TonyMc]
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Originally Posted By: TonyMc
Fair enough, but there will be no repeat business from this end user.
Sorry.


Is this based on principle, or Axiom's failure to come to a satisfactory solution? I'm just wondering if you've actually tried contacting them with a proposal of some sort. All I can say is give them a chance wink

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