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#322657 - 09/15/10 03:35 PM Re: The Blind Listening Experience [Re: medic8r]
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I think I'll cancel my subscription first.... and let them know why.
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#322664 - 09/15/10 03:41 PM Re: The Blind Listening Experience [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Registered: 10/03/05
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Good idea! I couldn't take the blatant hypocrisy of that mag any more so I bailed a couple of years ago. A much better objective alternative is Widescreen Review.
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#322672 - 09/15/10 03:49 PM Re: The Blind Listening Experience [Re: jakeman]
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$14,500?

Hmmm. That's a toughee. Do I want to spend $14,500 on some bookshelf speakers or $300 for speakers that sound virtually the same plus a Honda Civic for about the same amount.....I'll have to think this over....
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#322674 - 09/15/10 03:53 PM Re: The Blind Listening Experience [Re: Adrian]
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I seem to remember Alan or Ian mentioning that the B&W bookself was around $2800, so that probably makes it something like the 805S (which does not appear to exist any more).
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#322676 - 09/15/10 03:56 PM Re: The Blind Listening Experience [Re: fredk]
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Maybe I'll ask Ian or Alan for the exact model number, though if I write to the magazine, I won't mention where the A/B test was done so I don't create any "hard feelings" within the industry...
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#322678 - 09/15/10 03:57 PM Re: The Blind Listening Experience [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Just tell them they were "eh"/B tested by a group of 30 people in Canada!
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#322681 - 09/15/10 04:05 PM Re: The Blind Listening Experience [Re: Adrian]
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I wouldn't send 'em any pictures though.

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#322682 - 09/15/10 04:14 PM Re: The Blind Listening Experience [Re: RickF]
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Don't tell them half of the testers were hungover either....
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#322703 - 09/15/10 05:58 PM Re: The Blind Listening Experience [Re: CatBrat]
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I was expecting to hear an M80 or M60 vs an M22 or M2 sub combo. I never really entertained the idea of a competitor's speaker in the test.

Personally, I wasn't impressed with either speaker, but then again I was expecting a full range speaker (and I am used to my M80's).

I liked the B&W better overall, to me it was a little clearer and I liked the treble range better. I did however hear much wider sound (sound stage) and more, not necessarily better, bass from the M3. But I surly didn't like it $2000 better!

For $2300 I could have M80's and a VP180 or, M2's and an EP500 and a pair of QS8's. Each of which will give you much superior sound than a pair of 805's

I Like a more linear speaker like the M2's or M22's or M80's.

For me it was difficult to fill out the from also. It was hard to define the sound and put in words or ranking.

I now have a new perspecive on buying speakers.

It was a great excercise and I encourage every one to try it at least once before they buy speakers.
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#322793 - 09/15/10 11:19 PM Re: The Blind Listening Experience [Re: Worfzara]
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Yeah, Paul; I'd jokingly commented before the event that the hungover participants wouldn't be able to judge the first comparison, which was M80 vs Bose Cubes, but I sort of expected an Axiom vs Axiom test.

One of the fairly frequent questions here is the audible difference, if any, between M2/M22/M60/M80 when a sub handles the low bass. Alan has mentioned taking such tests, and I thought it'd be interesting for our members.
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