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#336014 - 01/28/11 01:25 PM Re: replacing vp150 with m2 [Re: alan]
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Originally Posted By: alan
There might be an arrangement of dual M2s that could work for you. I'll think about it.
Two m2's would fit like this ....

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#336018 - 01/28/11 01:33 PM Re: replacing vp150 with m2 [Re: turbo16v]
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When I tried that with my mains (side by side x 2 sets) it sounded really bad. When I aligned them vertically (see signature link), it sounded really good.

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#336021 - 01/28/11 01:38 PM Re: replacing vp150 with m2 [Re: CatBrat]
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Originally Posted By: CatBrat
When I tried that with my mains (side by side x 2 sets) it sounded really bad. When I aligned them vertically (see signature link), it sounded really good.
I kinda figured it would be weird... looks cool though (dual centers) smile


Edited by turbo16v (01/28/11 01:40 PM)

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#336024 - 01/28/11 01:43 PM Re: replacing vp150 with m2 [Re: alan]
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Originally Posted By: alan
Turbo,

I looked again at the photo. What is on top of your stand? Is there a flat surface you could try putting the VP150 on, angled down a bit? It should improve dialog intelligibility and from the photo, the center would still be close enough to the screen to anchor dialog in the center.
No for aesthetic reasons. Plus I like to make it difficult smirk

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#336026 - 01/28/11 01:48 PM Re: replacing vp150 with m2 [Re: turbo16v]
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What about just one itsy-bitsy M2 up on top and one below in the space where the 150 now resides?

Two M2s down there won't improve things.

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#336029 - 01/28/11 01:52 PM Re: replacing vp150 with m2 [Re: alan]
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Get the top one in a wood grain/color combo that matches the cabinet.

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#336032 - 01/28/11 01:55 PM Re: replacing vp150 with m2 [Re: turbo16v]
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The side by side dual centers gave me a 'phasy' center when I tried with my M22's when I listened off axis. I would guess this was due to some comb filtering or some other anomaly of having horizontal drivers close together, it just sounded a little weird.

Personally I think the M2 keeps up with the M80's quite well, just not for extremely loud play back levels. When I tried it out, the M2 was no worse than the VP150 was for anything I watched and with it's better off axis it was the better of the 2 in my one spot that has an issue with the VP150, and I suspect moving up to the 180 wouldn't solve the drop in off axis playback levels you are encountering, but YMMV as the extra width of the 180 does help spreadout the sound better.

Something you could try is angling the 150 slightly toward the off axis position (assuming it is on one side and not both) to see if that helps. This is what I am now using to alleviate my one seat that has the low center level issues, it didn't take much of an adjustment.
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#336035 - 01/28/11 01:57 PM Re: replacing vp150 with m2 [Re: jakewash]
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Chet, have you bumped your center up several dB? I haven't seen an answer to that (unless I missed it somewhere).
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#336038 - 01/28/11 02:01 PM Re: replacing vp150 with m2 [Re: alan]
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Originally Posted By: alan
What about just one itsy-bitsy M2 up on top and one below in the space where the 150 now resides?
I could start with one and see how it works. Then add another if needed I guess.
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Get the top one in a wood grain/color combo that matches the cabinet
The HG Cherry matches quite well grin

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#336039 - 01/28/11 02:06 PM Re: replacing vp150 with m2 [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
Chet, have you bumped your center up several dB? I haven't seen an answer to that (unless I missed it somewhere).
Yes I have tried that with minimal results. The off axis is maybe 1/4 to 1/2 lower in volume than center.

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