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#355606 - 09/27/11 10:09 AM
Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype
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Registered: 09/27/04
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Amie or Ian (Ivan): Is this meant to be a replacement model, or is it "in addition" to the current ones offered?
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#355607 - 09/27/11 10:10 AM
Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype
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Those are not the best photos Everyone's a critic nowadays! 
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#355608 - 09/27/11 10:14 AM
Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype
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connoisseur
Registered: 09/19/08
Posts: 3984
Loc: Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire
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Sorry i really don't like the apparence, They looks like teenager project made in a basement in the 80's. how about having a longer & slimmer shape to be more friendly with flat screen set-up ? I think there is a propostion H&W problem, less height & wider could help ? But I'm volunter to test a Beta unit a home (for free ). The VP100, VP150 and VP180 all have that slimmer profile of various sizes you are talking about. One of the key aspects of this design is having the tweeter above the bandwith limited midrange driver. This is critical for its dispersion. One of the trade-offs will be of course a taller cabinet compared to the others.
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#355613 - 09/27/11 11:31 AM
Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype
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Registered: 12/30/03
Posts: 6134
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
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Those are not the best photos Everyone's a critic nowadays! Well, ya see, I have this friend who is a professional photographer. He's really good at it so I'm spoiled. I tend to measure all photos against his work. Thus, you can blame him for my critical opinion. 
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#355614 - 09/27/11 11:58 AM
Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype
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axiomite
Registered: 12/27/08
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I would approximate the cabinet could be made an inch, or so, narrower with a notched tweeter faceplate. Having the centre-to-centre distance as small as poss between the mid and tweet should also improve the SQ from what I've read(may not be audible, but at least it reduces the height if nothing else). Reducing the height, if possible, would make the speaker desirable to more buyers. I don't agree with statements about just getting one of the other centres as I think they are different animals(excluding the 180) and I don't really think a buyer would "cross shop" between the smaller centres and either the 160 or 180 once they have done their research.
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#355629 - 09/27/11 02:35 PM
Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype
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enthusiast
Registered: 09/07/10
Posts: 31
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Another way to look at the height is to question .... whether this height is a necessity to achieve the best SQ ........ or ..... is it just a result of the limitation of using the existing drivers ........ If the answer is "limitations", then I believe faceplate re-design would open up a lot more possibilities for Axiom line of speakers ......
For me, I guess H:W ratio of 1:3 would be more appealing.
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#355631 - 09/27/11 03:18 PM
Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype
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old hand
Registered: 06/24/05
Posts: 64
Loc: Bellingham, WA USA
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Since we're all chiming in on 'wish lists,' how about a redesign of the vp 100 or 150 to have a similar W-M^T-W compliment, using the 5.25" W and 4" M, along with the 1" T to go with my M22's? It seems like I can use a little more than my vp 100, but I'm not sold on the 150's configuration with the tweeters on the outside.
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#355632 - 09/27/11 03:21 PM
Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype
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Registered: 05/03/03
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I think you'd be sacrificing midrange and timbre vs. the other Axiom speakers based on a gut feeling by doing that.
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#355636 - 09/27/11 04:01 PM
Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype
[Re: powerwindow]
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connoisseur
Registered: 09/19/08
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Since we're all chiming in on 'wish lists,' how about a redesign of the vp 100 or 150 to have a similar W-M^T-W compliment, using the 5.25" W and 4" M, along with the 1" T to go with my M22's? It seems like I can use a little more than my vp 100, but I'm not sold on the 150's configuration with the tweeters on the outside. Go with the VP160 and it's dedicated 5.25" midrange driver  . It would be a better match than using the 4" as the midrange with the M22. The crucial midrange of each speaker would share the same driver then. One difference being with the VP160, the 5.25" would be more bandwith limited than on the M22 with anything below the crossover point being handled by the larger 6" woofers flanked on each side.
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