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#355645 - 09/27/11 07:15 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: BlueJays1]
powerwindow Offline
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Registered: 06/24/05
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Loc: Bellingham, WA USA
I think I agree. The configuration I suggest would be a 3-way that would x-over to the 4" for midrange. I suppose this could be limiting. Although I don't think there would be any timbre difficulties since many people use QS 4's with M22's and they have the 4" driver. I am interested to see how this new center evoloves.

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#355646 - 09/27/11 07:37 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: powerwindow]
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I know Axiom has mentioned before they like the midrange capabilities of the 5.25". More so than the 6.5 but I don't think they ever mentioned the 4". One driver complement a fellow member JohnK suggested was a dual 4" in a WM(^T^)MW.
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#355647 - 09/27/11 07:47 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: BlueJays1]
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Ahh, now you're really shaking things up. Would the woofers be the 5.25" drivers? If so, it would be like a baby 180. smile This could be interesting as it would lengthen the box. Looking at the 180 prototype, I do think it appears too 'boxy.'

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#355648 - 09/27/11 07:58 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: powerwindow]
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Now that's an important question and one I could not answer.
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#355651 - 09/27/11 09:14 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: BlueJays1]
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As a former owner of QS4s as well as a current owner of M50s, M80s, etc, etc, etc, etc, I prefer the midrange of the 5.25>3>6.5>4. Bearing in mind, of course, that my 5.25" mids are v2s, the 3s are v3s, the 6.5s are v1s, and the 4s were v2s.
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#355658 - 09/27/11 10:33 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: CatBrat]
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Brian, keep in mind that the main purpose of the new design is to have the tweeter and mid-range aligned vertically, and putting the tweeter and mid-range beside each other would defeat this purpose. This would be little different acoustically from taking the M60 and setting it on its side.

Several Axiom competitors offer such a W T/M W arrangement, such as Aperion , Paradigm and PSB .
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#355659 - 09/27/11 10:44 PM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: BlueJays1]
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Yes, a couple years ago Blue Jay(aka Dr. horse)and I discussed center speaker designs and one of the suggestions I mentioned was an arrangement for a W T/MM W, which would use the tweeter and two 4" mid-ranges grouped as closely as possible in a triangular configuration. This was pure speculation, and the benefits(if any)of such an arrangement are unclear, beyond doubling up the mid-range drivers.

I might note that the competitors' W T/M W speakers that I linked above do make use of 4-4 1/2" mid-ranges which helps keep enclosure height down.
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#355667 - 09/28/11 02:25 AM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: Amie]
2x6spds Offline
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Registered: 03/16/02
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Loc: CA, USA
Originally Posted By: Amie
Well, the first prototype is designed, cut and built, and heading into the testing room! What do you think?


Side view


Front view


OK, it's clunky looking. Focal JM Lab Electras look a bit better.


and of course the B&W Nautilus center speaker raises the tweeter above the driver line



and of course the idea of my Frankenspeaker DIY project using Axiom 6.5" drivers is the tweeter is above the speaker line. Axiom could place the 5.25" driver where the horn tweeter is and raise its tweeter to where the supertweeter sits.

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I think it would make the unit look much better and get rid of the bulk.


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#355668 - 09/28/11 07:14 AM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: 2x6spds]
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Registered: 12/30/03
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I've never cared for the stand-alone tweeter on top of the cabinet. It looks, to me, like they forgot it and said "oh well, lets just nail it down up here." wink But, that's just my personal perspective. YMMV.
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#355673 - 09/28/11 08:22 AM Re: Sneak Peak: VP160 Prototype [Re: Ajax]
Argon Offline
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Registered: 07/24/04
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Loc: Oak Ridge, NC
Originally Posted By: Ajax
I've never cared for the stand-alone tweeter on top of the cabinet. It looks, to me, like they forgot it and said "oh well, lets just nail it down up here." wink But, that's just my personal perspective. YMMV.

Looks a little phallic to me?
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