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#371069 - 03/26/12 12:17 PM Re: Exciting News From Axiom! [Re: Amie]
dakkon Offline
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This is what Ian said in an e-mail he sent me.

Originally Posted By: Ian
For the M100 you will want four channels of exactly the same amplification. It is pretty much the more power the better up to about 500 watts per channel and then the speaker would start to become the limiting factor.


So a receiver + stereo amp would not work. I am pretty sure that the power AND the gain need to be the same for all channels powering the new speakers


Edited by dakkon (03/26/12 12:27 PM)

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#371073 - 03/26/12 12:36 PM Re: Exciting News From Axiom! [Re: tomtuttle]
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Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
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the one for the M80v3 L&R, VP180v3 C, 3 channels in


I'd be pretty surprised if one of these has even been built, yet.

Remember, the DSP box is only being launched now, in conjunction with the new speaker. Just because the same concepts may be developed for V3 models and in different configurations doesn't mean that they are "available".


understood, i was just asking if someone had a picture of it. they show the one from the front, just nice to know what the connection side looks like. that's all.
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#371074 - 03/26/12 12:39 PM Re: Exciting News From Axiom! [Re: tomtuttle]
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Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
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the one for the M80v3 L&R, VP180v3 C, 3 channels in


I'd be pretty surprised if one of these has even been built, yet.

Remember, the DSP box is only being launched now, in conjunction with the new speaker. Just because the same concepts may be developed for V3 models and in different configurations doesn't mean that they are "available".


Andrew himself talked to me about the M80 DSP, I'm pretty sure it's real enough. He described the difference with the DSP.

wink

since I have M80V2 that,s why I asked if it would be compatible with mine. Since they probably have V3 components in them, yes they will. Any older V2 won't work. I ordered my M80V2 just a few months away from the V3 release.

So far this is real information and no speculation.

I know the product was not announced officially but let's wait and see.
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#371075 - 03/26/12 12:41 PM Re: Exciting News From Axiom! [Re: dakkon]
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Originally Posted By: dakkon
This is what Ian said in an e-mail he sent me.

Originally Posted By: Ian
For the M100 you will want four channels of exactly the same amplification. It is pretty much the more power the better up to about 500 watts per channel and then the speaker would start to become the limiting factor.


So a receiver + stereo amp would not work. I am pretty sure that the power AND the gain need to be the same for all channels powering the new speakers


i'd be willing to bet that the amp for the rear section doesn't need to be as powerful as the front section. i bet only the gain needs to be identical. lets face it the rear only has 2 tweeters and 2 mid-woofers. the front has all of that plus 3 (sub) woofers.

time will tell
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#371080 - 03/26/12 12:47 PM Re: Exciting News From Axiom! [Re: solarrdadd]
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Originally Posted By: solarrdadd
Originally Posted By: dakkon
This is what Ian said in an e-mail he sent me.

Originally Posted By: Ian
For the M100 you will want four channels of exactly the same amplification. It is pretty much the more power the better up to about 500 watts per channel and then the speaker would start to become the limiting factor.


So a receiver + stereo amp would not work. I am pretty sure that the power AND the gain need to be the same for all channels powering the new speakers


i'd be willing to bet that the amp for the rear section doesn't need to be as powerful as the front section. i bet only the gain needs to be identical. lets face it the rear only has 2 tweeters and 2 mid-woofers. the front has all of that plus 3 (sub) woofers.

time will tell


This was my e-mail to which the response above i received.

Originally Posted By: dakkon
The amps that i am planning on running will be the Krell KAV 250a's (250W@ 8 ohm, 500W@4ohm).. However, could i use the 250a for 2 of the channels, and buy a KAV 150 (150W @8ohm and 300W @ 4ohm) for the other 2 channels, i am pretty sure that the 150 and 250 have the same gain, i will have to call krell to verify, or should i just get a second 250a?


Originally Posted By: Ian
For the M100 you will want four channels of exactly the same amplification. It is pretty much the more power the better up to about 500 watts per channel and then the speaker would start to become the limiting factor.


I would guess there is a reason why you need matching amplification. Also, Ian specifically said "exactly the same"... I am going to do what Ian said to do, since he and Andrew designed the things.

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#371083 - 03/26/12 01:05 PM Re: Exciting News From Axiom! [Re: Amie]
stevej Offline
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Registered: 08/08/09
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A lot of good advice. I looked on the outlaw site and I could get 5 2200s for $1324. The 5th one is free. That would be 4 for the new speakers and one for my 180. Then the surrounds on the Onkyo.
Looks like that may a good setup. But talking my wife into the 4000.00 investment. HMMMM. Plus the DSP for the 180.

Again thanks for all the replies. A lot of knowledge here that I sure don't have.

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#371090 - 03/26/12 01:35 PM Re: Exciting News From Axiom! [Re: stevej]
dakkon Offline
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Registered: 02/08/04
Posts: 1846
Originally Posted By: stevej
A lot of good advice. I looked on the outlaw site and I could get 5 2200s for $1324. The 5th one is free. That would be 4 for the new speakers and one for my 180. Then the surrounds on the Onkyo.
Looks like that may a good setup. But talking my wife into the 4000.00 investment. HMMMM. Plus the DSP for the 180.

Again thanks for all the replies. A lot of knowledge here that I sure don't have.


Steve, your on the right track.. investment

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#371091 - 03/26/12 01:38 PM Re: Exciting News From Axiom! [Re: Amie]
stevej Offline
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Registered: 08/08/09
Posts: 76
Yeah. At least it sounds good when using that word.

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#371094 - 03/26/12 02:02 PM Re: Exciting News From Axiom! [Re: stevej]
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That's sort of funny. When I first saw your post I was going to reply to the contraray of Dak. Your wife is not stupid (she's not Romanian, is she?). She knows that investments increase in value. You have to convince her that your fulfilled desire will will make you so ecstatic that you will be a changed man and gleefully do the laundry and the supermarket shopping.
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#371096 - 03/26/12 02:22 PM Re: Exciting News From Axiom! [Re: Amie]
stevej Offline
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Registered: 08/08/09
Posts: 76
Actually my wife is a great lady. Been married 39 years. Just joking on this some. She will say do what you want to do. She really loves the HT and our time watching movies. Not so much into music. But this is a lot of money and will have to convince myself more than her.

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