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#377943 - 06/05/12 07:26 PM Quarters under the front legs...WOW
Woodrow Offline
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Registered: 05/22/12
Posts: 27
Loc: Sacramento, CA
When I set-up my M60s, I put a level on them and they looked real close. But looking at them now for several weeks, they just seemed to be leaning forward a little. Just for giggles I tried putting quarters under the front legs to angle them up, very slightly. I am astounded at the improvement of the highs. I felt my jaw drop, literally, several times while listening to my "new" speakers. What I thought were good speakers I now believe to be fantastic speakers! (Hmmm, you don't think I'm imagining it after investing all that money, do you? ;o) Seriously, try it. You might like it.


Edited by Woodrow (06/05/12 07:59 PM)

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#377944 - 06/05/12 08:16 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
RickF Offline
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Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 5210
Loc: Vero Beach, Florida
I keep several quarters handy in my CD cabinet just for leveling our M80s on the carpet, for whatever reason (weight & balance, I presume) our M80s always lean out from center so I use quarters under the outboard legs to level the speakers vertically. I never thought about raising the front of the speakers past level for sound.
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#377947 - 06/05/12 10:27 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
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hmmmm
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#378010 - 06/06/12 05:35 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
Gary Vose Sr Offline
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Registered: 03/17/12
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Loc: Casa Grande, AZ
If you have any washers hanging around use them and pocket the $$$. If you don't have any, keep using the quarters, as I suspect purchasing them would cost more than the value of the coin.
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#378013 - 06/06/12 06:24 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
tomtuttle Offline
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Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8280
Loc: Tacoma
You know what would be great? Some outriggers with adjustable legs. Maybe Mark could build some.
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#378014 - 06/06/12 06:48 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
MarkSJohnson Offline
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Loc: Central NH
Could, Would or Can?
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#378015 - 06/06/12 07:32 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
tomtuttle Offline
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Registered: 06/20/03
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Loc: Tacoma
You know I'm just messing with you.
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#378016 - 06/06/12 08:05 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: MarkSJohnson]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
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Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
Could, Would or Can?

Post a survey and we'll get back to you.
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#378017 - 06/06/12 08:23 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: tomtuttle]
MarkSJohnson Offline
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Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
You know I'm just messing with you.

Yes, I do, Tom. No worries. smile
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#378039 - 06/07/12 07:50 AM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
Murph Offline
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Registered: 10/05/06
Posts: 6780
Loc: PEI, Canada
Enough with the Tom-Foolery.

But seriously. I recently solved a similar problem in putting together the tripod, mast brace on the new Hobie Cat. The front bar has a directional brace at the top that refused to thread in, in any other way other than to end up with the brace at 180 degrees the wrong way. Instructions said to tighten or loosen it to get the correct angle but it would not tighten that much and loosening left a tiny gap of a ml or more. They say the gap is OK as all the pressure on the bolt is mostly up & down but I'm kind of crazy in that I like load bearing parts to fit flush.

I could not find a stainless steel washer just the right size to get it flush so I tweaked a nylon washer to fit on a belt sander. Cost of nylon washer... free, because the clerk was not interested in ringing in a 6 cent item.
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#378050 - 06/07/12 10:07 AM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
CatBrat Offline
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Registered: 08/05/09
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Loc: Some random location
I've got some extra quarters, than I can let go for $2 each, just in case you're interested.

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#378071 - 06/07/12 12:52 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
tomtuttle Offline
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Registered: 06/20/03
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Loc: Tacoma
Murph, you don't seem to ever embrace that The Perfect is the Enemy of The Good.

Which makes you pure evil, I guess.
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#378083 - 06/07/12 02:22 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
medic8r Offline
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Registered: 02/05/06
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Loc: Fredericksburg, Virginia
Every forum needs one, Tom. But the question is - which of us will Murph have to kick out of the throne to assume the title of King of Evil?!?!
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#378141 - 06/08/12 12:12 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
Murph Offline
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Registered: 10/05/06
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Loc: PEI, Canada
I don't want to sit in the throne. I just want to control the throne. Muhuhuhahahahahahahah.
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#378158 - 06/08/12 03:14 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
SRoode Offline
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Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 1200
Loc: Fishers, Indiana, USA
Pre-65's work better... Higher silver content...
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#378165 - 06/08/12 04:25 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
Gary Vose Sr Offline
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Registered: 03/17/12
Posts: 302
Loc: Casa Grande, AZ
Half Dollars, have a little larger diameter, and is a little thicker as well.
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#379572 - 07/05/12 09:25 AM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
bridgman Online   content
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Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 5356
Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
I was just thinking... if quarters work so well, maybe some kind of crystal...

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#379574 - 07/05/12 10:25 AM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
Murph Offline
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Registered: 10/05/06
Posts: 6780
Loc: PEI, Canada
Unobtanium!!! Charge thousands!
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#379577 - 07/05/12 11:06 AM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
CatBrat Offline
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Registered: 08/05/09
Posts: 5820
Loc: Some random location
Obtanium!!! Charge hundreds!

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#379587 - 07/05/12 01:48 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
Clovis Offline
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Registered: 09/07/03
Posts: 35
Loc: Goa, India
Some speaker companies provide an extra spiking kit (like axiom) which contains spiked screws which can be adjusted to allow the speaker to lean back, so the front spike screws are higher than the back. They claim it improves sound. I think it does, but I know of one good sounding setup (an expensive setup with bass traps and stereo separates) which does not utilise spiking kits or even the toe-in.

It does look slightly cool though.
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#379590 - 07/05/12 02:20 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
J. B. Offline
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Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 1265
Loc: Quebec, Canada
in my view, leaning a speaker front to back can be good when one wants to have the tweeter aimed exactly at the ear if one is sitting higher or lower than the tweeter height - compared to ear height.
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#379742 - 07/07/12 05:29 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
INANE Offline
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Registered: 02/04/04
Posts: 1660
Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
I've been struggling to position my M80's to my liking. I need to give this a shot.
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#379743 - 07/07/12 06:15 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: INANE]
Gary Vose Sr Offline
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Registered: 03/17/12
Posts: 302
Loc: Casa Grande, AZ
Originally Posted By: INANE
I've been struggling to position my M80's to my liking. I need to give this a shot.



Does anyone have any spare change? smirk
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#382975 - 09/19/12 03:01 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: SRoode]
BuddTX Offline
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Registered: 08/12/04
Posts: 23
Loc: Houston, TX
Originally Posted By: SRoode
Pre-65's work better... Higher silver content...


Beat me to it, I was going to say this too! 1964 and earlier quarters were mostly silver, after 1964, they used "coppernickel" or something like that!

Pretty soon there will be a "heads up" vs "heads down" discussion as to what is better, then of course there will be "Canadian vs US" quarters . . . <grin!>

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#382978 - 09/19/12 03:05 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
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We all know that Canadian sound is more neutral.
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#383005 - 09/19/12 11:41 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: BuddTX]
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Originally Posted By: BuddTX
Originally Posted By: SRoode
Pre-65's work better... Higher silver content...


Beat me to it, I was going to say this too! 1964 and earlier quarters were mostly silver, after 1964, they used "coppernickel" or something like that!

Pretty soon there will be a "heads up" vs "heads down" discussion as to what is better, then of course there will be "Canadian vs US" quarters . . . <grin!>

Speaking of pre-1964 silver coins, I found a bunch of coins at my grandma's house when I was helping move her from California to Oklahoma. These are the ones with dates up to 1900 (movie link). There are quite a few more.

The back story on the collection is that my grandma worked for Bank of America as a cash handler in the vault in the 1960s. Her boss let her trade out any currency she wanted to collect with something of equal face value. Pretty sweet deal! smile

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#383013 - 09/20/12 07:50 AM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
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Loc: Central NH
Nice!
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#383030 - 09/20/12 12:08 PM Re: Quarters under the front legs...WOW [Re: Woodrow]
chesseroo Offline
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Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 4801
Loc: western canada
I put new fiber plugs underneath our coffee table.
Now it doesn't tip to one corner as much.
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