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#386185 - 11/26/12 07:45 PM Re: Center - M2 v M3 and inwall/onwall v onwall [Re: tomtuttle]
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Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
Right, but even the M2 onwall version is rated to 80Hz. Which does seem counter-intuitive since it has a much smaller (nearly insignificant) box and one less woofer than the VP100.

I suspect that the bigger, sealed VP100 probably has quite a lot more power-handling. But, if I could hear dialog more clearly, I wouldn't have to turn it up as loud.


Have you tried angling the VP100 up more? I put 2 rubber door-stops under the front of mine to point it up more towards my listening position and dialogue was improved. Hockey pucks work too.

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#386190 - 11/26/12 09:29 PM Re: Center - M2 v M3 and inwall/onwall v onwall [Re: tomtuttle]
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Tom, the only thing that has a touch of madness about it is doing all this figuring without having a precise measurement of the vertical space available. You mention 8.5", but I made a quick comparison(hardly precise)with the VP100 height, and figure it's at least 11". The regular M2 might just be able to be squeezed in. If so, that should be the pick; it's essentially the upper section of the M60 and should match very well. A couple of years ago Dean tested extensively and praised the M2 as either a center or width speaker with the towers.

If it can't possibly fit, my next thought would be that the in-wall part of the M2 in/on certainly would.
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#386192 - 11/26/12 09:57 PM Re: Center - M2 v M3 and inwall/onwall v onwall [Re: tomtuttle]
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Betcha a Bose cube would fit in there!
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#386194 - 11/26/12 09:58 PM Re: Center - M2 v M3 and inwall/onwall v onwall [Re: tomtuttle]
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#386200 - 11/26/12 11:54 PM Re: Center - M2 v M3 and inwall/onwall v onwall [Re: tomtuttle]
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Thanks, guys. I knew I could count on you. Especially Ken.

The opening is 9.5"h x 21"w. No room for a VP 150 between the doors.

I knew that it was too short for a standard M2 and never considered putting a bookshelf speaker on its side.

As johnk mentioned, it looks like I can fit the inwall portion of a M2 ow/iw in there with enough room for angling. I'm tempted to buy a pair on the closeout, although I can't really imagine what I'd ever do with the second one.

I have experimented with various angles of the VP100. Like I said, it's fine; I just wonder if it could be better on my terms.
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#386202 - 11/27/12 12:15 AM Re: Center - M2 v M3 and inwall/onwall v onwall [Re: tomtuttle]
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Tom, then get just one M2 in/on, apparently at $169, not half the sale price for a pair.
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#386216 - 11/27/12 10:05 AM Re: Center - M2 v M3 and inwall/onwall v onwall [Re: tomtuttle]
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Tom, have you considered mounting the TV on the wall and using the top shelf of the cabinet? you could pretty much go with any speaker you like then.
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#386217 - 11/27/12 10:13 AM Re: Center - M2 v M3 and inwall/onwall v onwall [Re: tomtuttle]
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Yeah, that's what I did.
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#386218 - 11/27/12 10:45 AM Re: Center - M2 v M3 and inwall/onwall v onwall [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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I think he said he had a projection TV, which would be kinda hard to mount on the wall. smile
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#386219 - 11/27/12 10:47 AM Re: Center - M2 v M3 and inwall/onwall v onwall [Re: tomtuttle]
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Yes, of course. That's the ultimate plan. We currently have a RPTV so that won't work. Also, where we have (and prefer) the TV in our current house doesn't have a wall behind it; there is a shuttered window. So, I'm certainly looking for an interim solution pending larger expenditures.

Plus, if Mark did it, how good could it really be?
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