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#388074 - 01/10/13 08:41 AM Re: M22 Placement [Re: sevendustweb]
CatBrat Offline
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If at all possible, I'd order a pair of M2 and a pair of M3 so I could test them both. Listen to 1 for a few days, then swap and listen to the other for a few days. Then send one of them back.

If not, most people would say to pick M2 with sub and M3 without sub.

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#388114 - 01/10/13 02:22 PM Re: M22 Placement [Re: sevendustweb]
exlabdriver Offline
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Registered: 09/07/11
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I didn't know about using to 2 subs which is ideal; however, in case you missed my reply over at AVS, here it is:

GTP's assessments are correct. From what I read from the gurus on the net, vertical speakers normally shouldn't be laid down if you can help it especially if there are more than 2 drivers in each enclosure.

I have 3 sets - 2 separate audio only systems (M2s + EP-400 sub; M3s only) & a HT ( M22s each perched on its own Velodyne sub).

The M2s are small bookshelfs that are really intended to be used with a sub for fuller sound & are more than satisfying in that type of array - I am most impressed with mine - big sound with small footprint.

M22s sound similar to the M2s as they have the same drivers. They are are good on their own but shine with a sub.

The M3 has the same tweeter but bigger woofer. It therefore sounds similar but also a little different (if that makes any sense).; however, for normal music listening, it doesn't really need a sub as it has a bit of mid bass bump to give the impression of more bass. This actually works quite well, not quite as accurate as the M2 series but still pleasing to listen to.

If your room isn't too large, I'd recommend the M2s with 2 subs & M2 center (if you could use it vertically). I don't have an Axiom center so I can't help you there.

If a sub is not involved, then the M3s would be a better way to go.

Overall the M22s would be best due to higher power handling, but I hear ya when it comes to WAF.

Unfortunately aesthetics are often large problems that need to be overcome. System appearance is very important to me as well...

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#388151 - 01/10/13 09:20 PM Re: M22 Placement [Re: sevendustweb]
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Dusty, if there's no way you can get past the height issue(my M22s certainly don't look unusually tall)then M2s with subs will be very good crossed over at 80 or 90Hz.
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#388160 - 01/10/13 11:14 PM Re: M22 Placement [Re: sevendustweb]
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Registered: 10/22/08
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Here is an uneducated question: the M3s can handle up to 175 watts of power. If I attached them to an amp with 200 watts per channel, would I blow the speakers?

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#388161 - 01/10/13 11:24 PM Re: M22 Placement [Re: sevendustweb]
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You would probably blow up your ears first, ha! Having more power than normally required is far preferable to being under powered where clipping of the amp can & will damage drivers.

You will be fine as long as you don't go stupidly loud beyond the limits of the speaker - that would be stupidly loud. Besides, your subs will carry much of the load by contributing a ton to the overall sound field thus relieving stress on the sats...

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#388162 - 01/10/13 11:51 PM Re: M22 Placement [Re: sevendustweb]
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As Tom indicated, the determining factor is how loud you play a speaker, not the maximum power capacity of the amplifier. Most of the time with a speaker of average sensitivity, such as the M2, the speaker will use about 1 watt for a comfortably loud level. The amplifier can be capable of 200(or 2000)watts, but there's no danger of damage to the speakers(or your hearing)if they're not played at dangerously high levels. Even on brief peaks it's unlikely that more than about 100 watts would be used.
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#388237 - 01/11/13 10:38 PM Re: M22 Placement [Re: sevendustweb]
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The M2's sound extremely similar, actually pretty much identical to the M22's (A/B listening with some pretty select music is about the only way to tell, IMO) and as you will have subs I would get the M2's and never look back. Tom & John have covered the power question.
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