ah, but both of those amps are solid state amps.. So, i would agree under that premiss..

Depends on movie and mood. I usually end up at either -8db or -3db.

My Outlaw sounds better than your amp,

Oh yeah, mine has 0.00002% less distortion at full power so there!

oh boy... here we go... What i was actually speaking to, was the fact that tube amps can actually add distortion. Some people really like the distortion that a tube amp can introduce.

No no no. My Pioneer sounds better than your Denen. Hahaha.

LOL

What I don't understand is why, do you buy M80's and a VP180 and set it to small with an 80 hz cross over, because the sub will do a better job ???? That, just seems like a waste of money. Why not spend 1000$ less and buy the M22's given that your not even using the lower freq. crossover in the M80's. they have the same drivers less the woofers. anything below 80hz in the small setting is going to the sub anyways. Just seems like a waste of speaker.

Because there is still a difference in sound from an M80 set at 80hz vs. an M22 set at 80hz, the low XO on the M80 is at 160hz so it is still in play with the 80hz setting.

OK, that's starting to make a bit of sense.

Almost ...............