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#185531 - 11/25/07 08:46 PM Re: 2nd comparison QS8s vs. M22 as surrounds [Re: chesseroo]
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I find your setup interesting. I planned on using M22's as surrounds (primarily listen to music). As I don't have any room behind me I was advised to place facing one another on side walls so they are directed over the middle of the couch. I wonder if I'd be better putting them at the back wall and toeing them in a bit. Based on where I'm seated one speaker will be about3 feet away from me and the other about 5. My processor can compensate for the distance. What do you think?

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#185578 - 11/26/07 01:30 AM Re: 2nd comparison QS8s vs. M22 as surrounds [Re: eddieg]
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Once again, let your ears decide, if it sounds better toed in than straight over the couch then leave them toed in. It really is up to you at this point.
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#185600 - 11/26/07 11:44 AM Re: 2nd comparison QS8s vs. M22 as surrounds [Re: eddieg]
chesseroo Offline
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 Originally Posted By: eddieg
I find your setup interesting. I planned on using M22's as surrounds (primarily listen to music). As I don't have any room behind me I was advised to place facing one another on side walls so they are directed over the middle of the couch. I wonder if I'd be better putting them at the back wall and toeing them in a bit. Based on where I'm seated one speaker will be about3 feet away from me and the other about 5. My processor can compensate for the distance. What do you think?

The setup i tried at our old place was limited in getting the M22s moved around too much. Mostly at the sides, where shown, but i did place with distances and toeing a bit. I never did put them directly behind the seating position since the 5.1 setup usually defaults to side surrounds, not rears. In a 6.1 and 7.1 setup, the rears are added.
As such, in your situation, it would make most sense to have the M22s to the side. I doubt you will need to do anything with toe in, unless you choose to place them more towards the rear of the seating area.
Definitely take your time to setup the distances and SPL calibration especially. If the surrounds are too loud, it will really detract from the subtle information they are supposed to present with the mains.
If you listen mostly to music, i think you will find their presentation very pleasant, though a bit more tweaky than plunking in some diffuse firing speakers like a QSx. Tweaking is half the fun.
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#185601 - 11/26/07 11:56 AM Re: 2nd comparison QS8s vs. M22 as surrounds [Re: chesseroo]
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I was about to say...they would sound even better with soup cans chess!


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#185693 - 11/26/07 09:40 PM Re: 2nd comparison QS8s vs. M22 as surrounds [Re: Hutzal]
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How about an EP350 firing downward on pucks?


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#185714 - 11/26/07 11:33 PM Re: 2nd comparison QS8s vs. M22 as surrounds [Re: chesseroo]
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I feel like throwing it a milk bone.
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#185744 - 11/27/07 07:19 AM Re: 2nd comparison QS8s vs. M22 as surrounds [Re: pmbuko]
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Woof.

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Unfortunately, we'd likely get two dogs so one of them will have to endure name-calling on the playground and dog parks.

What were we talking about?
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#186830 - 12/06/07 11:43 AM Re: 2nd comparison QS8s vs. M22 as surrounds [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Registered: 10/23/03
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Loc: Jacksonville, IL
Interesting, interesting.

I've used my m22's as rear surrounds for almost a year now. I haven't quite been able to convince myself that QS8's would be that much of an improvement, but this post helps. I've got a couple hundred bucks worth of Axiom credit thanks to a successful demo session (Axiom rocks!), maybe it's time to cash it in.


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#186848 - 12/06/07 12:23 PM Re: 2nd comparison QS8s vs. M22 as surrounds [Re: PeterChenoweth]
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 Originally Posted By: PeterChenoweth
Interesting, interesting.

I've used my m22's as rear surrounds for almost a year now. I haven't quite been able to convince myself that QS8's would be that much of an improvement, but this post helps. I've got a couple hundred bucks worth of Axiom credit thanks to a successful demo session (Axiom rocks!), maybe it's time to cash it in.

It is just one opinion.
Depending on room and placement, your M22s may provide an equally good setup for surrounds.
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#186849 - 12/06/07 12:29 PM Re: 2nd comparison QS8s vs. M22 as surrounds [Re: PeterChenoweth]
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Registered: 02/28/07
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Loc: Warrenton, VA
 Originally Posted By: PeterChenoweth

I've got a couple hundred bucks worth of Axiom credit thanks to a successful demo session (Axiom rocks!),


Please explain


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