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#44812 - 05/14/04 11:37 AM
Re: Odd question 80's vs 60's vs 50's
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shareholder in the making
Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17371
Loc: NoVA
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Woo hoo!
Thanks for the comparison. I wasn't really worried about my order, but a little bit, you know...
I love reading speaker comparisons done by real people who don't use all the audio mumbo-jumbo that professional reviewers often do. Thanks!
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#44813 - 05/14/04 11:45 AM
Re: Odd question 80's vs 60's vs 50's
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axiomite
Registered: 12/30/03
Posts: 6134
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
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Me too, Ken. Wish I could hear some 50s sometime.
John, thanks for posting your impressions. I enjoyed what you had to say.
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#44815 - 05/14/04 07:14 PM
Re: Odd question 80's vs 60's vs 50's
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connoisseur
Registered: 02/02/04
Posts: 2734
Loc: Rochester, NY
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John, thanks for the input on the 50s. You hear almost nothing about them. Interesting compare with the 80s. I would have thought there was a bigger difference. Sounds like you helped Ken avoid some buyer's remorse as well and that's a good thing. Well written and appreciated.
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#44817 - 06/30/04 02:00 AM
Re: Odd question 80's vs 60's vs 50's
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axiomite
Registered: 12/30/03
Posts: 6134
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
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In reply to:
I actually sold them to my brother in law who has yet to pay me in full for them so I'm hanging on to them.
Wise Move!
By all means keep us posted as to your impressions of the 60s relative to the 50s and the 80s. Interesting!
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#44818 - 06/30/04 01:15 PM
Re: Odd question 80's vs 60's vs 50's
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connoisseur
Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 3016
Loc: San Angelo, TX
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never happy-
as ajax requests, please keep us informed of your impressions.. i think you may the only person on here(besides alan and amie) that have heard the 50's, 60's and 80's.. so that makes you some what of a source for information. why dont you go ahead and get the M2's, M3's and the M22's just to round out your collection.
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#44819 - 06/30/04 02:00 PM
Re: Odd question 80's vs 60's vs 50's
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shareholder in the making
Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17371
Loc: NoVA
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Don't forget the M40s. We've got a new person asking about those...
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#44821 - 07/05/04 01:16 PM
Re: Odd question 80's vs 60's vs 50's
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regular
Registered: 06/27/04
Posts: 6
Loc: Northern Cali, soon to be Hart...
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Thanks very much for your post, NeverHappy, as I happened upon it at a critical time in my decision making process. I imagine many others brand new to the Axiom line have followed the same trajectory as me ... after reading tons of glowing reviews and narrowing down my choices to the M60s or M22s, I actually sought out the bad reviews as a hedge against buyer's remorse (to which I am particularly susceptible). Now I'm finding myself a little worried about the "too bright" tag that seems to be the only line of attack against them. I certainly don't want to re-open the semantic can of worms of "bright" vs. "detailed" but if the M50 mitigates the issue at LESS cost while still delivering outstanding quality, then I may have found the perfect solution. I'm also heartened by the idea that there isn't a huge difference between the VP100 and 150, as that would save me even more money. I'm assuming by the set up you retained, that the QS8s (which now seem, in my situation anyway, to be the one Axiom upgrade that is unquestionably worth the money) still blend well with the lower models of the center and mains?
FWIW, and to protect myself against the inevitable backlash, there are a whole host of reasons why even the remote possiblity of speakers sounding "too bright" or even "overly detailed" worries me. One is that the musician I listen to the most is a guitarist named Steve Kimock who is famous for a crystalline tone that often edges close (at least to my wife's ears) to piercing on its own merits. Any additional shade in that direction might make him off limits and I couldn't bear that.
Secondly, I also collect and listen to a lot of unofficial live recordings, many of which are recorded under ideal circumstances -- with the band's full support, very expensive rigs onstage, in an high as 24bit -- but some of which are not. The idea of spending money on merciless speakers that render unlistensable an already large and ever growing collection is similarly horrifying. I also plan to incorporate a (PC) digital media server into my setup, and though I'll be using a good soundcard, it certainly won't be true audiophile quality and once again I fear the revealing qualities of the M60 or M22 would be a double-edged sword.
I'll just stop now, as I've rambled on WAY too long already (if it's not obvious, I am currently obsessed with the question of which speakers to buy next). I'd love to hear feedback, though, to anything I've said.
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