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#48641 - 06/08/04 03:58 PM Re: Speakers to match Yamaha 2400
Capn_Pickard Offline
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Registered: 03/09/04
Posts: 1056
Loc: Arlington, VA (NOVA)
I'm running the same set-up (sans the VP150, as I went with the VP100) with the RX-V750, which is about 20 watts/ch. less than the 2400. It kicks some @ss.

In short - you'll have no probs with the 2400. You may even be able to get away with less amplification if you're not trying to overpower the sound. Thats why I still recommend you think about the 1400 or the 750



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#48642 - 06/08/04 04:02 PM Re: Speakers to match Yamaha 2400
bigjohn Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 3016
Loc: San Angelo, TX
the 2400 is one of the more powerful/versatile receiver out there right now. the dang thing will almost wash your dishes for you..

as someone has already said, if money is an issue, you can actually drop down to a little cheaper receiver, to give you more cash on the top for speakers.

if budget isnt an issue, then go for the gusto.. and once you get all this set-up, you just might find yourself listening to more cd's than you ever had before.. its rather impressive to hear good music thru great speakers.

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#48643 - 06/08/04 04:04 PM Re: Speakers to match Yamaha 2400
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Registered: 04/02/04
Posts: 12
I am considering the 1400. The only differences that I can see are the serial port, 2 DSPs, 10 watts per channel, and a different remote. I have a Harmony Remote so I don't care about the remote anyway. It is a strong possibility that I will go with the 1400 now that I am going up 1k in speaker cost

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#48644 - 06/08/04 04:08 PM Re: Speakers to match Yamaha 2400
bigjohn Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 3016
Loc: San Angelo, TX
you wont miss 10 watts.. get the 1400, and get the M60's in the front..

you will be well on your way

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#48645 - 06/08/04 04:13 PM Re: Speakers to match Yamaha 2400
chrixx Offline
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Registered: 04/02/04
Posts: 12
Thanks for all the help. I really appeciate it. I have one more concern to deal with. Will the HSU STF-2 sub work for me or do I need something bigger? Since I am going with towers now, does this change my sub requirements?

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#48646 - 06/08/04 04:20 PM Re: Speakers to match Yamaha 2400
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Registered: 03/09/04
Posts: 1056
Loc: Arlington, VA (NOVA)
check out the comparison charts at yamaha.com.

If you go to their site, and navigate to the receivers, click on a model, and there will be a link to compare different receivers. They'll let you compare, side by side, the 2400, the 1400 and the RX-V1. On another sheet, you'll be able to compare the 750, 650 and a couple others. Comparing the 750 sheet to the 1400 sheet, you realize that the 750 and the 1400 only differ in a couple of ways - and you can decide how important they are.

So... starting from the viewpoint that both recievers are IDENTICAL, here are the differences...

1400 - 110 watts/ch.
750 - 100 watts/ch.

1400 - YPAO - complete
750 - YPAO - does not include re-equalization on the mains and surrounds. Essentially, you can futz with the bass, mid and treble manually, but the YPAO won't re-EQ your speakers, except for the center. Some say that this is a good thing (like Alan - a moderator on these boards), because the equalization can make the speakers sound much different, and basically undo all that the manufacturer did to make the speaker sound the way that it does.

1400 - lots of DSP modes
750 - MORE DSP modes (interesting, huh)

1400 - more digital inputs, fully assignable
750 - a couple of less inputs, fully assignable. I.e. unless you have 12 components, you'll find plenty of space to put your equipment, and don't worry that you'll have to remember that your CD recorder is hooked up to the MD jack - you can re-assign the name to correspond to the component that the input is being used by.

I believe that those are the only, if not the biggest differences. Both have DLPIIx, both have sh*tloads of processors. Both have a phono jack. Both have 2nd room capability, and bi-wireable capability. I think even the remote is the same.

Anyway, just my input. Go find out for yourself, then you won't need convincing, right!?

Good luck. Ps - you can't maek amistake with the options that you've chosen.

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#48647 - 06/08/04 04:22 PM Re: Speakers to match Yamaha 2400
Ajax Offline
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Registered: 12/30/03
Posts: 6252
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
In reply to:

How about M60 front, VP150 center, QS8 surrounds, and M2 rear surrounds?




That's the way I'd go in a room (and I'm assuming, a budget) that size.

Were I you, I'd give HSU a call (or at least fill out their Product Recommendation and Support Form) about the correct sub for a room that size. I would wager Bren's woodchuck (inside joke - see here) that they suggest the STF-3, or VTF-3, would serve you better in a room that size, but I've been known to wrong now and then . They, like Axiom, SVS, av123, et. al., have very good customer service, and won't fool you into something you don't need. If the STF-2 will work for you, that's what they'll tell you. I, by the way, own and enjoy an STF-2 (11.5x18x8).

I will also echo BigJohn's caveat. I suspect that when you get that system cranked up, your interest in listening to music will be reborn. And, with the Yammy's capabilities, your curiosity will be piqued as to what it'll do with SACD and/or DVD-A

Enjoy.

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#48648 - 06/08/04 04:52 PM Re: Speakers to match Yamaha 2400
bigjohn Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 3016
Loc: San Angelo, TX
the sub question can be a little more complicated. some will tell you that you cant ever have enough sub.. while others will say that moderation is the best bet. there is no doubt that the STF-2 will get the job done, but there is no question that the STF-3 will get the job done BETTER. the low LFE's are essential to the HT experience, so it is highly recommended not to skimp on the sub.

the HSU brands are fantastic subs.. the STF/VTF series are as good or better than most. you may also look into the SVS subs.. their PCi and PC+ series will probably be the best match for your room. they also make box speakers if concealment is an issue.

you have yet to mention a wife, so we dont know exactly what your constraints are

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#48649 - 06/08/04 05:13 PM Re: Speakers to match Yamaha 2400
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Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 5214
Loc: Los Angeles
15' x 19' isn't all that big of a room...I think you could get away with the M22ti's just fine, depending on how far away from them you'll be sitting. If you're no further away than 10'+ I say go for it. If you'll be sitting much further back, then the M60ti's will work really, really well also.

Regarding the rear channels...someone around here made an excellent point (can't remember which one of you it was) that if you're rear channels are going to be on the wall just behind the seating area (like only 1'-2' away) you'll be much better off with another set of QS series surrounds in the rear. But if you've got some space behind you (at least 4'+) then the direct radiating M2i's are probably a better bet for those f/x channels.

In either case the QS series should be used for your surrounds...they're amazing.

It'll come as no surprise for the regulars around here, but I whole heartedly support your choice of Hsu for the sub. That room can be filled by the VTF/STF-2, but you'd really enjoy the VTF-3 a bit more. You've got a good amount of air to move around.

Good luck!


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#48650 - 06/08/04 05:52 PM Re: Speakers to match Yamaha 2400
jeffbridges Offline
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Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 25
Guys - tyring to get a better handle on some of your comments about the difference between rears and surrounds. The diff would be between 5.1 and 7.1, right? So, in a 5.1 setup, rears and surrounds are synonymous, right? In that situation, would the QS8's be a good choice for 5 channel audio as well as surround? SOrry - I just dont get it yet... jb

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