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#52115 - 07/12/04 06:24 PM Re: movie dialogue question help
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Registered: 05/01/03
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Seems to me that you should be able to solve this without using that dynamic range control.
A few questions:
- Do you have the VP150 tilted down so that it points directly at your listening position?
- Did you calibrate by pointing the spl meter directly at each speaker as the test tone went from speaker to speaker? (I believe the correct method is to point the spl meter straight up.)
- Do you have the VP150 set to "small" or "large"?
- If you have it set to small (as it probably should be), are you sure you calibrated your subwoofer correctly? IMO, too much sub will muddy your center channel when you have it set to "small".
Keep trying, it should sound pretty damn good.

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#52116 - 07/12/04 06:54 PM Re: movie dialogue question help
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I did put spl meter on tripod pointing up. and I also tried to tilt center speaker down. It is about3 feet higher then front speakers as it sits on top of the tv. I did have it set to small and my sub is not set to produce too much I even tried turning it down. I also have a question about large and small settings. If I have large set it will output full range to speakers. Can I do it with my speakers?
Why it is only recomended with speakers that are 6 1/2 inches? Will it make movies sound better with double bass?
I am a little concern about my center, I just want to make sure it is working right. Is it possible it is wired wrong inside( I mean polarity) cause I checked my wiring alot of times and it is all correct. I am just not to happy with the way things coming out of the center. I hope I don't have a defective one. maybe there is a way to test it some how?

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#52117 - 07/12/04 11:55 PM Re: movie dialogue question help
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I guess you should check driver by driver to ensure that each is indeed operational. It sounds like you know what you're doing. Maybe try running the center a couple clicks louder than everything else?

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#52118 - 07/13/04 01:42 AM Re: movie dialogue question help
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AA, possibly bigjohn is referring to the "Dialog Enhance" feature as described(superficially)on page 59 of your manual. It only mentions T-D mode and isn't clear if it's otherwise available. I'd guess that on the center channel it boosts the formant frequencies(about 1-4KHz)that give speech intelligibility and probabably it raises the center channel volume a bit too. If it is available you could try it for speech, although something like that wouldn't be very good for music.
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#52119 - 07/13/04 11:18 AM Re: movie dialogue question help
alan Offline
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Hi animate,

While it's always advisable to calibrate the relative levels of all your speakers, don't get too obsessive about the center channel. With some movies, dialog is mixed at too low a level because in the mixing sessions, the director and the audio engineer know it by heart (they've heard it so many times) and mix it too low. In cases like that, you will need to turn up the center-channel volume until it's clear and intelligible.

That setting may change depending on what movie or video you watch, so find the easiest way to adjust the center-channel volume level. Every receiver will let you do that, but you may have to go to the on-screen menu to adjust it. Usually an increase of 2 to 3 dB is enough to improve dialog clarity.

Also keep in mind that the sound quality of the center-channel speaker is very dependent on placement. All the tips here are useful, but try experimenting with the placement of the speaker. If you can put it beneath your TV screen, you may find the dialog clearer. Every room and setup is different and what works well in one room may not in another.

Don't set your center channel speaker to "Large." Use an 80-Hz crossover freqyency in your receiver's bass management setup. " may inhibit dialog clarity, and your subwoofer will carry all the important bass frequencies anyway.

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#52120 - 07/13/04 01:17 PM Re: movie dialogue question help
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Registered: 07/12/04
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Thank you very much for the help and suggestions. I think that there could be other problem. I will take a picture of my setup today and will post it. My room has 3 alcoves the center speaker is sitting in the middle one and fronts in the left and right one. The alcoves are large about 8*4*3 feet. Maybe that's why the sound could sound like out of the box. But I keep speakers on teh edge. I will post the picture tomorrow morning so it will be easier to explain.
Thank you!

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#52121 - 07/13/04 05:06 PM Re: movie dialogue question help
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Registered: 07/13/04
Posts: 828
Loc: Newburgh, NY
Ya know Ani i have the previous onkyo model tx-sr 600 and i find the same thing. even turning up the db on the center helps but still sometimes the loud explosions will still be way over the top. I dont have axiom speakers (yet) just some sony towers and denon center and surrounds. I also should mention im still very new to this but im leaning towards just a annoying nuance of the onkyo reciver. hope this helps but probably not lol
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#52122 - 07/14/04 01:51 AM Re: movie dialogue question help
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I guess I have to set up my web page first. Cause I don't see how I can attach an image here.

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#52123 - 07/14/04 02:40 AM here is my image
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http://mysite.verizon.net/res8j0od/
click on the thumbnail to see bigger size.


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#52124 - 07/14/04 07:51 AM Re: here is my image
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Loc: San Angelo, TX
lets make it clickable..

here is animate's system

cool lamps!!

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