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#66153 - 03/14/05 07:08 PM Re: Upconverting DVD players
snakeyes Offline
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Registered: 07/13/04
Posts: 828
Loc: Newburgh, NY
Nick i await your impressions on the panny i am thinking about getting that one as well soon.
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#66154 - 03/14/05 08:16 PM Re: Upconverting DVD players
willso7 Offline
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Registered: 01/11/05
Posts: 111
Loc: canada , montreal
hi i have a z2 whit goosystem , play movies via componant whit a denon 1710, picture pretty amazing. i try whit dvi via samsung dvd , i return the samsung , dont see the difference !, so i return the samsung, and go whit componant via my denon 1710, happy guys.
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#66155 - 03/15/05 11:10 AM Re: Upconverting DVD players
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Registered: 02/29/04
Posts: 342
I am one of those w/ an older projector w/out HDMI or DVI. I was pretty disappointed to find out that most of the upconverting players will not output this via component. I will probably end up just playing around w/ my HTPC and the different resolutions it can output to see what I can get. I also played around w/ the idea of a cheaper stand-alone upconverter made by ADS, but I've read mixed reviews about the actual quality of the output. Oh well.....

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#66156 - 03/15/05 11:49 AM Re: Upconverting DVD players
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Registered: 05/13/02
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Loc: western canada
Turbo,
It is an unfortunate consequence of having 'upgrades' to the electronics standards so frequently. What some consider upgrades, others consider a pain in the ass. The consumers have to constantly buy new components to interface their electronics for compatibility literally on a year to year basis. As much as i like the HDtv concept, front projectors, dvd quality or larger capacity discs and so on, if i had a hot cattle prod to place in appropriate areas for the electronics designers and digital media protection mongers, i would likely use it. If one can send a HD signal via a computer & component vid to a tv, then who the hell cares if using component from a run of the mill dvd player could do the same thing as well?
Pick a damn format, quit the damn squabbling and quit trying to shoehorn consumers down a 100%, protection proof path.
There's my 2 angry cents.

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#66157 - 03/15/05 01:09 PM Re: Upconverting DVD players
TurboDog1 Offline
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Registered: 02/29/04
Posts: 342
Amen to that!!!! I bought the damn content, so let me do with it whatever the hell I want.

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#66158 - 03/15/05 01:11 PM Re: Upconverting DVD players
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Registered: 12/10/03
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Loc: Winnipeg MB Canada
In reply to:

Pick a damn format, quit the damn squabbling and quit trying to shoehorn consumers down a 100%, protection proof path.
There's my 2 angry cents.



Amen brother... and we have to quit being braying sheep and allowing them to keep 6 different standards open, essentially still making money on a product that will be obsolete when a standard finally comes down.

Bren R.

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#66159 - 03/15/05 01:42 PM Re: Upconverting DVD players
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Registered: 02/16/05
Posts: 325
Loc: Utah
Hey Turbo....

It gets worse. Early word is that both HD-DVD and Blu-ray players will not support component outputs. So early adopters of the HDTV format are continuing to get screwed. Alot of upset consumers on this one, and I completely understand why.

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#66160 - 03/15/05 03:43 PM Re: Upconverting DVD players
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Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17754
Loc: NoVA
I say screw 'em. I'm not buying until they figure this stuff out. I'm still not quite sold on SACD/DVD-A. Pick ONE! Isn't that what our parents always used to tell us?

HDTV is the worst case, but HD-DVD/Blu-Ray is not far behind.

I can't wait until people with "HDTV" now (720p) find out that the standard is 1080p in a few years. There's a-gonna be screaming hissy fits.
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#66161 - 03/15/05 04:12 PM Re: Upconverting DVD players
BrenR Offline
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Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 3602
Loc: Winnipeg MB Canada
Well, after VHS beat out the much superior Betamax format, seems like manufacturers are hoping for the same result in every new technology. Throw enough sh*t at a wall, some of it will stick. They just hope it's their sh*t.

I won't even cheer for a specific flavour of HD... I like 1080i, but I'm sure it'll be a progressive flavour that wins out. People like that flickery film look, and means studios and stations can hire kids too dumb to understand interlaced video to build their effects and crawls then.

Soon your TV will just play Shockwave/Flash. That's the day I find a loooong rifle and a tall book repository.

Bren R.

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#66162 - 03/15/05 04:15 PM Re: Upconverting DVD players
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Registered: 09/27/04
Posts: 10856
Loc: Central NH
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I can't wait until people with "HDTV" now (720p) find out that the standard is 1080p in a few years. There's a-gonna be screaming hissy fits.




Not from me. I'll have had the benefit of enjoying an excellent picture while the others are just waiting and waiting....

IMHO, there's not a HUGE difference between 720P and 1080P.... not near as much as the jump I made from 480i to 720P. Besides, the broadcasters need to get their ducks in a row, and they've been proving how long that takes. After gearing up for 720P and 1080i equipment, how quick do you think they'll rush to upgrade everything again?
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