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#75956 - 01/12/05 12:29 PM Re: Two new systems, $5,000 each (ballpark)
BigWill Offline
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Registered: 05/01/03
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Loc: Corona, Calif. USA!!!
Good point, tleigh. My M60s are remarkably distortion free. A couple weeks ago the toddler cranked the volume knob ALL the way up without me knowing it. Later, I hit play and it was LOUD, but super clean for the few seconds it took to lower the volume. I was impressed.

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#75957 - 01/12/05 03:29 PM Re: Two new systems, $5,000 each (ballpark)
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Registered: 01/11/05
Posts: 44
Loc: Minnesota
Thanks everyone;

Being new to the posting boards, I probably should have been more clear. The two systems will be in different homes, one's for me and the other for my brother (sorry about the rime!).

I had only mentioned the Denons because I get them at cost, so the 3805 seemed a good choice as far as price break and options. However, for my system (M80Ti's), I know Denon will be releasing that 4806 (or 4805) in the near future. Would you wait for that model, or stick with the 3805? Also, the Outlaw option sounds good, or maybe even the NAD T773??

Which one will have the warmest sound for these speakers?
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#75958 - 01/12/05 03:32 PM Re: Two new systems, $5,000 each (ballpark)
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Registered: 02/01/04
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I'm not familiar with the NAD. I will say that the Outlaw amp is transparent and will not induce a warm sound.
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#75959 - 01/12/05 03:57 PM Re: Two new systems, $5,000 each (ballpark)
Ray3 Online   happy
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Registered: 02/02/04
Posts: 2817
Loc: Rochester, NY
David,

I'm not sure how an air traffic controller gets Denon gear at cost (but several folks here will undoubtedly ask you directly ), but that puts a little different spin on the solutions. The 3805, at cost, is a no brainer. Spend more on separates if you feel the need (unless you get THEM at cost as well), but the 3805 gets uniformly high marks, drives either system you mention very well and has plenty left.

The 4806 looks like is a pretty impressive unit. At cost, it gets even more impressive. My reponse to the THX cert is pretty muvch - 'that's nice". Other than that, from what I have been able to determine, the 4806 has a bit more power, more connections, HDMI and DVI connections for video and probably a bunch of other features taht will need to be compared to the 3805 . Assuming available space is not an issue, most of the decsion between the 3805 and 4806 looks like it will boil down to 1) do you need more connections, 2) do you need/will you use the DVI and HDMI video swithcing, 3) what are the other additional features and do you need them and 4) price.

With the MSRP of the 3805 at $1200 and the 4806 at $3500, some quick math tells me that, even at cost, the 4806 is 3X the price. Is it worth that to you?

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#75960 - 01/12/05 04:40 PM Re: Two new systems, $5,000 each (ballpark)
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Registered: 12/26/03
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I would vote for the 4805 just for the HDMI and DVI switching. Makes hooking up all the HD gear a little easier. Other than that your systems sound and will sound great.

P.S. You can send me one 4805 pleassssssee.
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#75961 - 01/12/05 07:24 PM Re: Two new systems, $5,000 each (ballpark)
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Registered: 01/11/05
Posts: 44
Loc: Minnesota
The discounts aren't too bad, the 3805 would run me about $760. Cheaper than most, and maybe the best deal overall. Maybe I'm over thinking this one, but I'd want to make sure I've got a little room to grow in the future. The connection formats are changing faster than the stockmarket!, and thats got me thinking a little. Most of my CURRENT stuff is component video, but as I upgrade, I'd a little flexability.

I currently plan to hook up to the receiver:
1) DVD/SACD (component video, digital coax)
2) VCR (s-video, rca audio)
3) HD Cable (component video, fiber audio)
4) HD Antenna feed (component video, fiber audio)
5) Xbox for kids (just fiber audio, component video going direct to TV)

From receiver, all video going to HD TV (component video), and without upconversion in receiver, VCR running direct to TV via s-video.

That's the plan, so will the 3805 fit that bill, and if I run 7.1, will the amps be there? or are some of these other options a better fit?
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#75962 - 01/12/05 07:27 PM Re: Two new systems, $5,000 each (ballpark)
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Registered: 09/27/04
Posts: 10698
Loc: Central NH
David:
I think you should try the Denon 3910 Disc Player.

You might not like it, but I'll then take it off your hands for $900 so you can try something else!
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#75963 - 01/12/05 08:04 PM Re: Two new systems, $5,000 each (ballpark)
Ray3 Online   happy
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Registered: 02/02/04
Posts: 2817
Loc: Rochester, NY
The 3805 plan works as you laid it out. Also, if you do need/want to upgrade later on to catch up with new stuff, you could buy a 3805, 3808 and 3811, get yourself 6-9 years out for what it would cost to do the 4806 today.

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#75964 - 01/12/05 08:34 PM Re: Two new systems, $5,000 each (ballpark)
BigWill Offline
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Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 1951
Loc: Corona, Calif. USA!!!
I agree with the above post. Go "cheap" for now. Manufacturers will inevitably make your equipment obsolete no matter how much you spend, or how much you try to stay current.

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#75965 - 01/12/05 11:44 PM Re: Two new systems, $5,000 each (ballpark)
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Registered: 01/11/05
Posts: 44
Loc: Minnesota
Two last questions, I know how there's just not enough time in a day.

First, someone had mentioned upgrading to the Axiom 500 sub. Are the bigger 500 and 600 Axiom subs of better value and quality now, or am I still better off with a SVS type sub??

Second, I posted this over in Audio, but know one took the bait. My brother wants to know how the Axiom M60Ti or M80Ti compare to the KEF Q's or Polk LSi-15?? Those WERE the two bands that he was looking at, but I convinved him to take a look at your speakers. He's heard the other two, but what can I tell him about the Axioms??

Thanks Everyone for all the advice.
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