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#77569 - 01/18/05 11:42 PM Re: "Stereo's Intrinsic Flaw"
Michael_A Offline
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Registered: 02/07/04
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I find it amazing that so many people in movies carry baguettes sticking out of paper bags in the rain. Why is that? Haven't the French ever heard of umbrellas or (gasp) putting their baguettes in plastic bags until they get home? Who wants soggy, crusty old bread anyway?

I'm pretty sure that's why the English invented cricket. They had to do something with all that stale bread that the French threw out because it got rained on... All you have to do is run it over with a trolley before the match to flatten it out...
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#77570 - 01/19/05 06:18 AM Re: "Stereo's Intrinsic Flaw"
Ned Offline
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Registered: 12/06/04
Posts: 117
Loc: Indianapolis, IN
All my Big Mac sandwiches have been on white bread with the little seeds on top. One time in Iowa I was served a Big Mac on bread that was yellow colored....strange, probably just the bread from that region I suppose or maybe it was intrinsically flawed. I also started a home theatre but realized it was much cheaper to do two channel (with the same brand of speakers). I sure as heck would not refer to stereo as intrinsically flawed. Title of this thread is sure a conversation starter though. It also amazes me a small store that sells only bread can stay in business.
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#77571 - 01/19/05 10:38 AM Re: "Stereo's Intrinsic Flaw"
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Registered: 04/26/04
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Ned, I'm not the one who says its intrinsically flawed (just in case you're thinking that). This was the title of newsletter piece by Alan. Don't get me wrong though, I thank Alan for those pieces. I've read every one and have learned a great deal. Its a nice service provided by a great company. The title just...stood out. Particularly in light of the declining demand for stereo music. Again, my main offering was the I'd rather hear 2 channel music on a great system over 5 channel on a so so system.



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#77572 - 01/19/05 10:48 AM Re: "Stereo's Intrinsic Flaw"
Ned Offline
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Registered: 12/06/04
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Loc: Indianapolis, IN
In my book and price range I agree with you whole heartedly about great 2 channel versus so so multi channel. From his replies at this forum I really like what Alan has to say. For declining 2 channel....it seems as though it is going all home theatre / multi channel which I'm sure is very good with a nice set up. Our local "high end" store has recently set up some really nice displays all over their store. Sad to see the two channel room sort of bare, empty and not much equipment or anything going on in there.
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#77573 - 01/19/05 10:55 AM Re: "Stereo's Intrinsic Flaw"
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I have yet to see acceptable pre/pros for 5 channels that were as inexpensive as acceptable 2 channels pre/pros. Or, integrateds as well.

I can attest to the brilliance of Dark Side of the Moon or Goodbye Yellow Brick Road in 5 channel.

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#77574 - 01/19/05 12:00 PM Re: "Stereo's Intrinsic Flaw"
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Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 5214
Loc: Los Angeles
While I agree for the same dollars you can likely put together a better sounding 2 channel setup than 5.1 channel, I have to say that done right, dollars be damned, the best 5.1 sounds leaps and bounds better than the best 2 channel. I think that is the point of Alan's original article.

Done properly 5.1 is better than 2.

I don't see the controversey in that.
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#77575 - 01/19/05 12:14 PM Re: "Stereo's Intrinsic Flaw"
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Registered: 03/02/04
Posts: 13
Loc: Vermont, USA
I dont want to sound like an old fart- but I guess I am. I listen to Bluenote Jazz and Classical music and two channel is just fine for me. I do not want "special effects" or sounds floating from the rear or bass that shakes the wall. I seldom watch television ( much rather read a book). I have tried a dsp but the sound was "phony" to me. My system of Rotel 972 amp, Cambridge Audio 640c dedicated cd player and Axiom m60's sounds great!!

I understand the appeal of the surround/theater sound for those who want that sort of thing- and realize I am in the minority, but there is room for all types of music and listening environments.

I understand also about the benefits of ambient noise, but doesnt my listening room provide ambient qualities from the reflected sound?

I just hope everyone is as pleased with their system, regardless of the number of speakers, as I am with mine.
Chuck

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#77576 - 01/19/05 12:19 PM Re: "Stereo's Intrinsic Flaw"
Riffman Offline
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Registered: 04/26/04
Posts: 242
Spiff, does a speaker company want to sell 5 speakers or 2? Hence, the piece, under the guise of customer education, perhaps is partly marketing. The name helped. First impression right off the bat is "stereo is lesser". This is not always so in the real world with limited dollars to spend.

I don't criticize all of this. I'm just throwing it out there.

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#77577 - 01/19/05 12:29 PM Re: "Stereo's Intrinsic Flaw"
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Registered: 02/23/04
Posts: 836
Loc: Illinois.
I don't think "speaker companies" started multi-channel, or H/T, but are "riding the wave".
Axiom, I noticed have changed their header from Axiom loudspeakers, to: Axiom home theaters, and they list H/T first on this forum, BUT...if there is any "push", so to speak..it's (IMO) from the receiver folks,... you know 5.1, 6.1, 7.1, can 12.1 be far behind?
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#77578 - 01/19/05 12:54 PM Re: "Stereo's Intrinsic Flaw"
Riffman Offline
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Registered: 04/26/04
Posts: 242
Then again Spiff, I do see your point. Alan was probably limited his piece to just the science. Which, is his right. I have no complaints.

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