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#78619 - 01/28/05 08:09 AM Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
Truth Offline
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Registered: 01/26/05
Posts: 2
Ruined what? It's obvious who the SVS plants are although I'm not saying there are any in this thread. Just check HTF.

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#78620 - 01/28/05 12:41 PM Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
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Registered: 05/09/04
Posts: 8
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Against my better judgment, I'm going to chime in on this whole "BlueStater is an SVS plant" argument. Put very simply, he is not. Mark responded to my request for a Denon microphone a couple weeks ago, and has communicated back and forth with me since, providing a mound of valuable assistance and recommendations to me, going way beyond the simple questions I asked to provide long, in-depth, useful solutions and suggestions. Nothing he ever said was an attempt to sway me toward a particular product or brand, nor did he ever comment on the quality of the equipment I own or recommend switching to another brand. From my experience, there is less than no chance that he is a shill for any company whatsoever. Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply reading far too much into his post(s); sometimes there just isn't anyone on the grassy knoll.

Side note: Any company that is incapable of providing a superior product at 150% the consumer cost of their chief competitor has no buisiness being in the business. I would fully expect the SVS in that comparison to best the Axiom. As Mark said, bring in the EP500, and you'll get a whole different result.

"That's all I have to say about that."

-- Jason
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#78621 - 01/28/05 01:03 PM Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
Misfit_Toy Offline
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Registered: 02/22/04
Posts: 346
Loc: Wisconsin, USA
I wish I was paid by every company I promoted...then I would ask for discounts! I personally would own 3 SVS subwoofers by now...so I can be just like joninflorida
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#78622 - 01/28/05 01:38 PM Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
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Registered: 12/20/04
Posts: 173
Loc: Portland, OR
Thanks for the kind words, Jason. Got your system dialed in yet? And MAN, I can't believe this thread still has life! It's "The Thing That Wouldn't Leave," Internet-style.
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#78623 - 01/28/05 02:00 PM Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
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Registered: 08/10/04
Posts: 282
Loc: Lake Worth Florida
That's funny, Yeah I got three of em, and in a bit, 2 will actully work!!
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#78624 - 01/28/05 02:04 PM Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
DXDawg Offline
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Registered: 05/09/04
Posts: 8
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Heh, I hear ya. Ponce de Leon should have skipped the whole Florida trip and worked on developing computer technology; the internet IS the Fountain of Youth!

Still working and tweaking. My ears aren't real sure what they're looking...errr...listening for, so it's a lot of back and forth and up and down. I leveled everything to 0db on the 3805 = 85db on the SPL. Then I took your advice, zeroed out the EQ, and then bumped up the center by a couple dbs at 4kHz, and a db or so for all the other freqs over 1kHz. Then bumped up the sub about 8db. I know it violates a major rule in the home theater universe, but I listen to probably 95% HT/5% music, and hell, I just like the extra rumble! Maybe once the newness wears off, I'll tone it down a bit. But I doubt it ;-) Thanks again for all your help!

-- Jason
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Marantz SR8002
Toshiba HDA30 HD-DVD
Axiom m60/VP150/QS8-Boston Cherry
SVS 20-39PCi

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#78625 - 01/28/05 03:03 PM Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
BigWill Offline
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Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 1951
Loc: Corona, Calif. USA!!!
Nice review, bluestater. I like my EP350, too. More than adequate for my room, pretty tight and musical. I have heard the SVS 20-39 and was pretty impressed with it. Haven't had the opportunity to hear the HSU, unfortunately.

Change your user name and you'll be perfect. JK

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#78626 - 01/28/05 03:08 PM Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
BlueStater Offline
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Registered: 12/20/04
Posts: 173
Loc: Portland, OR
Did you find you really needed the EQ? After a bunch of tweaking the positions of the speakers, I got 'em where I don't feel I need EQ at all. If you do use the EQ, one thing I learned while mixing live sound is find a freq range (i.e. an instrument) that is not as forward in the mix as it should be. Then, figure out what is drowning it out and drop that freq or those freqs JUST enough that the instrument is clear. In other words, it is usually better to drop freqs than bump them. I'm not a devoted "no EQ" disciple, but I decided I would push that theory as far as I could with my new setup, and it seems to work well so far. Just have to go through much more hassle to position the speaks (and I also tweaked furniture postitioning). And I mean 1" in any direction or 1 degree of toe-in or out can make a big differerence. Check out my posts the last week or two and you can track my frustrations and foibles as far as getting it right. As far as +8 on the sub, that isn't unusual judging from many of the posts I see here. My EP350 is usually at +5 for HT and +2.5 for music. But in the end, if you think it sounds good, well, it sounds good to you. And you didn't spend all that money to make me or anyone else happy, now, did you?
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#78627 - 01/28/05 04:23 PM Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
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Registered: 12/20/04
Posts: 173
Loc: Portland, OR
Hehe. To change my name I would have to move 1 state to the East. Which would make me 1 state removed from the ocean. I have never lived more than 60 miles from the Pacific and I never plan to. 60 miles from the ocean, 60 miles from Mt. Hood . Both are great places to go any time of year. Yeah, I know, "rain blah-blah-blah." Rains more in 60% of the US. We Northwestners ignore it. But from mid-March or so through mid-September or so it's paradise on earth.
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#78628 - 01/28/05 04:53 PM Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
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Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8293
Loc: Tacoma
Dude, don't blow "the code".

Ahem. Yes, it rains an ungodly amount all the time in the Pacific Northwest. I don't know why anyone would want to live here. The traffic is horrible. It's dark and gray all the time. An earthquake or lahar will surely kill us all pretty soon. Did I mention The Wet?

Stay away.
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