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#87315 - 04/05/05 11:40 PM Re: Suggestions & Ideas for 2.1 w/80s...
bray Offline
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Registered: 06/10/04
Posts: 1792
Loc: Colorado
"Why are bottles of beer 341mL rather than even 500s?"

Because there is about the same amount of alcohal in a bottle of beer (341ml/12 oz.) as there is in a glass of wine(142 ml/5 oz.) or a glass of whisky (43ml/1.5 oz.).

I love ask jeeves.

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#87316 - 04/05/05 11:43 PM Re: Suggestions & Ideas for 2.1 w/80s...
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Registered: 12/01/04
Posts: 540
Loc: Richmond, VA
besides, who really is gonna get used to an announcer saying, "And the 'Skins only need 4.572 meters to win the Super Bowl!!" nobody's gonna want to hear that! (not that they ever would, even with the measurement in yards)
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#87317 - 04/06/05 02:58 AM Re: Suggestions & Ideas for 2.1 w/80s...
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Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16282
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
They'd just say "about 4 and a half meters"
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#87318 - 04/06/05 10:23 AM Re: Suggestions & Ideas for 2.1 w/80s...
BBIBH Offline
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Registered: 01/10/02
Posts: 1045
Loc: Canada
The Metric system is based on.....GASP ... Science!

The reason that the metric sizes are seemingly odd, is that they took the existing sizes, and made the change in measurement systems, not adjusting sizes.

Besides, who asks for 12 oz or 341 ml of pop? Nobody, they ask for a bottle/can of pop.

Nobody wants to change? Wow what a broad statement! The US is one of the only countries not using the Metric system. Do you realize how subjective the Imperial systems was? The King would have his foot measured to define length of "foot". Imagine a small king, or a large king, and the anomalies of the changes. Luckily, the standards stuck for the current Imperial system. Funny...the US hanging onto something developed by another country! You mention "10 Americans....", but there are far more who would not want the Imperial system to return.

Change in general is a part of life. I was a young lad when Canada changed to the Metric system, and while it took time to understand, I managed. I suggest the fear of change is greater than the impact of change - at least in this case.
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#87319 - 04/06/05 10:54 AM Re: Suggestions & Ideas for 2.1 w/80s...
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Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 5425
Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
>>I was a young lad when Canada changed to the Metric system, and while it took time to understand, I managed

Yep, same here. I still work entirely in feet and inches

Seriously, most industries here have NOT changed. Try building a house in metric. Heck, ask Axiom how tall an M60 is in metric and you're going to have to wait while they pull out the calculator.

How would we measure audio amp output ? Therms per hour or something ? Seriously, I was an early adopter of the metric system because I ran a darkroom at the time and everything worked better in metric, but after about 5 years I just went back to feet and inches. Our road signs are in Km but that's pretty much it AFAIK.

And yes I live in Toronto

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#87320 - 04/06/05 11:09 AM Re: Suggestions & Ideas for 2.1 w/80s...
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Registered: 04/02/03
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Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
So, what do they call 2x4s in Canada?
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#87321 - 04/06/05 11:17 AM Re: Suggestions & Ideas for 2.1 w/80s...
barilkobart Offline
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Registered: 11/19/04
Posts: 87
Loc: Pickering, Ontario, Canada
You mean 1-5/8" x 3-5/8"?

Dimensional lumber is still referred to with the Imperial system in Canada.
However, 1/2" plywood is referred to as 50mm (millimeter)


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#87322 - 04/06/05 11:22 AM Re: Suggestions & Ideas for 2.1 w/80s...
bigjohn Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 3016
Loc: San Angelo, TX
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Nobody wants to change? Wow what a broad statement!



yes, it is.. but, in case you forgot.. i am the one who lives in america, and who hangs out with and talks with americans on a daily basis. i am telling you, NO ONE WANTS TO CHANGE!! i aint trying to be difficult here, just being honest.. and i aint saying that you havent made some good points, YOU HAVE. but, you cant force something upon us that the majority of people are against. and this is not that big of a deal, where the american govt is suddenly gonna wake up one day and say, "OK, from here on out, its metric all the way". there are other pressing issues to deal with other than establishing a standard of weights and measures. not too mention, and i could be speculating here, but i think the american public wouldnt go for it. there would be anarchy in the streets. people in random vigilante groups, burning down ruler factories, and picketing companies that produce 1, 2, and 3 liter bottles.

i think thats a battle our govt is not ready to fight.

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#87323 - 04/06/05 11:37 AM Re: Suggestions & Ideas for 2.1 w/80s...
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Registered: 04/26/04
Posts: 242
"As Rick(BrotherBob)has rather gently pointed out, this discussion hasn't exactly been focused on the concerns that he raised. As to whether a stereo receiver or separates would be more advisable, it would seem the simplicity and economy of the receiver would be the choice except in the highly unlikely case that the power available in the receivers was inadequate.

Rick also asked about other items which would contribute to "good quality sound", but instead several suggestions relating to obsolescent audio technologies were made. Regardless of whether someone personally prefers these, they certainly don't represent "good quality" in an era when digital samples precisely reproduce the sine waves that comprise all of music. "

"Good quality" ----> is opinion. It's quite arrogant to assume that one's definition of quality is across the board for everyone so that it can be spoken of as fact. One should not have been the first one to define certain technologies as "better" (again, opinion and the exact word that was used if I can remember) than other technologies if one did not want this to happen. Again, brotherbob asked for good quality sound, not which was better. It is absolutely ridiculous to assume that there does not exist all kind of options for good quality sound be it analog or digital.

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#87324 - 04/06/05 12:16 PM Re: Suggestions & Ideas for 2.1 w/80s...
BBIBH Offline
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Registered: 01/10/02
Posts: 1045
Loc: Canada
No sorry, I was not questioning the American angle, but that "change" is not accepted - and for the most part as I mentioned, people fear change - any change.

I think that you are correct in your view of priorities. The Canadian gov't did mandate the change, and with a few exceptions, it has been adopted.

Anway, we have gone off topic.

I would look at many of the models that were mentioned. I would also look at other models - Vecteur, YBA, Sim Audio, if you wanted to look upscale. Yes, you will get conflicting opinions, and that is to be expected.
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