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#91295 - 04/27/05 01:01 PM Re: Bought my FIRST DualDisc!
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It's a nice little marketing scheme that's probably going to backfire as soon as people can't play the discs. But yes, I think the idea is video content, as opposed to DVD-A/CD.
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#91296 - 04/27/05 01:06 PM Re: Bought my FIRST DualDisc!
curtis Offline
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Registered: 05/28/03
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Loc: Manhattan Beach, CA
spiff...dualdisc gives you video content as well, and you do not need a SACD or DVD-A player to use the DVD side.

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#91297 - 04/27/05 01:23 PM Re: Bought my FIRST DualDisc!
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Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 5214
Loc: Los Angeles
I've got a few DVD-A discs that have video content and it's a pain in the butt. I just want to hear the dang music, if there's a 5.1 mix that's even better.

I think one of the things killing SACD/DVD-A is the fact that you need SIX cables to get the dang thing to work. That's STUPID. Great...no one can steal the music, but NO ONE IS BUYING IT EITHER YOU IDIOTS!

Sorry...it drives me crazy that something as cool as SACD/DVD-A isn't catching on because the music industry is run by idiots. Doesn't it make more sense to sell 200,000 units of SACD's and have 10,000 copies made and distributed then to sell only 10,000 units and have none copied? Do they really have their heads driven that far up their backsides?


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#91298 - 04/27/05 01:33 PM Re: Bought my FIRST DualDisc!
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I think it's not catching on because people don't get it. It's not an improvment they can hear on their current boombox or shelf system type equipment, and there's nothing cheap and/or portable available for it. Think about it-CDs took off when the portable stuff got cheap enough for people to buy. Plus their competitor was tape--pretty obvious difference there. Same with DVD. To get into SACD/DVD-A is a pretty big investment for someone who just wants to listen to music (ie, someone not like us). Hell, it's a pretty big investment if you already have 2 disc players and WAF, like me!
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#91299 - 04/27/05 02:38 PM Re: Bought my FIRST DualDisc!
bray Offline
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Registered: 06/10/04
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Yea they dont get it because the industry hasnt really marketed it.
The only commercial I've seen that came close to marketing it is an Acura commercial that mentions DVD-A.

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#91300 - 04/27/05 02:52 PM Re: Bought my FIRST DualDisc!
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There's nothing to get. Put the disc in and press play. If you only have a cd player there's no difference, if you have a uni or sacd player you get 5.1 sound. The problem lies in setting it up. I know what I'm doing, and I find it a pain in the butt. I can imagine most people just see six cables and say forget it. You don't need six cables for a DVD movie, and it can have up to 7.1 audio channels.

grrrrrrr....



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#91301 - 04/27/05 03:40 PM Re: Bought my FIRST DualDisc!
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Or, better, most people see $25 for something they won't be able to take advantage of. The 6 cables certainly hurt their case, though.
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#91302 - 04/27/05 03:41 PM Re: Bought my FIRST DualDisc!
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I don't think I've paid over $18 for any SACD or DVD-A I own. Most of the hybrid SACD's are the same price as a regular CD.


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#91303 - 04/27/05 03:44 PM Re: Bought my FIRST DualDisc!
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Oh. Oops.
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#91304 - 04/27/05 03:55 PM Re: Bought my FIRST DualDisc!
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Registered: 01/19/04
Posts: 521
Loc: PHX/Flagstaff, AZ
I totally agree with Spiff. I know the reasons why SACD hasn't taken off but it just doesn't make sense to me either. I will NOT be buying a dual disc. I will continue to buy SACD's that I can find that I like until the medium goes the way of the dodo bird (which is coming in about a year as the Blu Laser formats come out). I'll just take care of my SACD player and keep it until I'm an old man and I can have truly "vintage" gear.

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