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#99202 - 07/20/05 11:42 AM Re: 7 Channel Amps
NeverHappy Offline
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Registered: 12/12/03
Posts: 1424
Loc: Western Canada
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The point is that eBay is not what it used to be and deals are few and far between.




I agree with you. Is it just me or does it seem odd to anyone else the amount of bids being placed by people with no feedback who just registered? Granted everyone has to start out from scratch at one point but it sure looks to me like more and more sellers are using alternate id's to bump up the selling price.

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#99203 - 07/20/05 12:16 PM Re: 7 Channel Amps
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Registered: 07/12/05
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That is indeed a very likely possibility. On a number of bids I have seen my maximum bid price reached a little too often. Granted some are a result of people putting in a lot of incremental last minute bids. I have often missed a bid thinking "Darn, I could have afforded another $25".

I think the best deals are to be had (with some patience) from dealers having close-out specials. A prime example is when I bought Mirage M3-si speakers at about $3600. After a year or two, Mirage discontinued them and they cleared them out at $2650. That's a big mark-up! They were the speakers that I had a great experience with my first Adcom GFA-535II with passive preamp. That is why I was considering a multichannel Adcom until someone mentioned they are no longer the company that they used to be.

The option I like is used/demo equipment from the dealer.

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#99204 - 07/21/05 09:32 AM Re: 7 Channel Amps
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Registered: 04/30/05
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Loc: Alabama
The old saying of "Buyer Beware" is just as accurate today, as it was 30 years ago.

You just have to be careful of where you shop and the folks that you deal with.
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#99205 - 07/21/05 10:28 AM Re: 7 Channel Amps
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Registered: 04/06/05
Posts: 2339
Loc: Madisonville, KY
Outlaw announced the specs on their upgraded 7100 in an email today.

The 7125:

Power Output: 7 x 125 watts RMS at 8O, all channels driven from 20 Hz to 20kHz with less than 0.05% THD 7 x 190 watts RMS at 8O, all channels driven from 20 Hz to 20kHz with less than 0.05% THD Frequency Response: 20 Hz - 20 kHz ±0.1 dB at rated output Total Harmonic Distortion (THD): Less than 0.05% at rated output, less than 0.01% at 1 kHz Intermodulation Distortion (IMD): Less than 0.05% at rated output Power Bandwidth: 5 Hz - >125kHx +0/-3 dB Damping Factor: Greater than 400 from 10 Hz to 400 Hz
Crosstalk: Greater than -90dB from 20 Hz to 20kHz
Gain: Voltage Gain of 28 dB
Slew Rate: 50v/uSec
Input Impedance: Nominal 50k Ohms
Input Sensitivity: 1.0 volts for full rated output Remote trigger voltage: 3 - 32 VDC at 5ma or greater Dimensions (HxWxD): 5.0" x 17.2" x 16.2"
Product Weight: 51 lbs.
Power Requirements: 115VAC ±3%, 50-60Hz.
Power Consumption: 1,200 watts max


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#99206 - 07/21/05 11:51 AM Re: 7 Channel Amps
ratpack Offline
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Registered: 04/30/05
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Loc: Alabama
Bug: Thanks!! Good Find.

Did they mention a price?

Was that second power number (7 x 190 watts) at 8 ohms or 4 ohms?
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#99207 - 07/21/05 12:19 PM Re: 7 Channel Amps
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Registered: 04/06/05
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Loc: Madisonville, KY
Here's the full text of the newsletter.7125



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#99208 - 07/21/05 01:05 PM Re: 7 Channel Amps
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Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 973
Loc: Brandon, Manitoba
Rat,
here's a good website with lots of info on different amp classes: Educypedia

I have not looked through the whole thing, but hopefully there is some info in there of use to you.
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#99209 - 07/21/05 09:56 PM Re: 7 Channel Amps
ratpack Offline
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Registered: 04/30/05
Posts: 1155
Loc: Alabama
Hey thanks!!!!!

I had no idea that there were so many different classes of amplifiers. As I said, when I was in college they had A, B, and C combinations and flavors.

What is the world coming to? LOL!!

I'm going to read those articles.
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#99210 - 07/22/05 03:15 PM Re: 7 Channel Amps
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Registered: 07/12/05
Posts: 353
Loc: Western Canada (just)
In reply to:

The 7125:
Power Consumption: 1,200 watts max




Wow, that leaves just enough room on the typical circuit for a processor and maybe a DVD player.

This is where it is nice to see one breaker in your panel leblled "amplifier".

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#99211 - 07/22/05 04:34 PM Re: 7 Channel Amps
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Registered: 04/30/05
Posts: 1155
Loc: Alabama
Bruce: we've been through this discussion on another thread. That number is for all channels driven to full power simultaneously.

We have one data point that indicates that listening at very loud levels, peak power requirements are 40% of that stated number.

So, I wouldn't worry about tripping any 15 or 20 amp breakers.

That amp looks very nice. Its on my "review" list.
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