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M5HP's in the Wild!
#440007 12/08/20 04:37 PM
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M5HP's in the Wild!

Finally got these set up, now just tweaking placement and I may give more air around these speakers. Currently dialing in the subs as well. So far they sound great out of the box. I have less than 10 hours on them and I like what I hear!
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Zocco97 #440008 12/08/20 04:56 PM
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That looks very good. As you move them out in the room, you ought to hear more depth. I know you can't drop them lower but if you did, you would actually "see" images directly behind the speakers. In effect, they would acoustically disappear better.


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Hi Mojo, the tweeters are at ear height, so I'm not sure if I'd like to drop them lower. What are you trying to ascertain there? Also, I'll most likely move them out another foot once they break in more. Currently the images are behind the speakers and I have a great center image as well. Dependent on source, these vary for sure.

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Gorgeous setup.

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Zocco97 #440011 12/08/20 08:38 PM
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Zocco97, I'd say if you are satisfied with their imaging and soundstage, then don't listen to me. Just enjoy.

The conventional wisdom is to place speakers so that tweeters are at ear height. That's always what I start off with. But I also try to play with ears at the mid-point between mid-range and tweeter and also ears above the tweeter. I've found that M50v4, M2v4, M3v4, M5v4 all acoustically disappear better and don't shadow the images if the ears are 6" higher than the tweeters.

By "acoustically disappear better", I mean you can't tell where the speakers are. You just hear the source material.

By "don't shadow the images", I mean the speakers don't get in the way of the holography immediately behind the speaker boxes. You can look over the speaker boxes and see the images directly behind them.

I can't replicate these effects completely if the tweeters are at ear height. I also find the M2v4 is the least prone to these effects. I also find the OW are less sensitive to the tweeter height.

I've noticed these effects from MLPs of 10 to 14 feet.

The M100s, as every other passive floor-stander I've ever heard, doesn't acoustically disappear as well as all the others and presents a larger image shadow. The active LFR1100s are the best of breed and they disappear and have no acoustic shadow. They are as good as the M2v4 in this regard but of course play more loud while remaining clean.

BTW, the cleanest-sounding passive speaker Axiom makes is the M2v4. But it doesn't play full range and for those who want to rock out, it will audibly distort at 100dBC SPL at 12 feet away. A sub can help. That is exceptional performance at any price. It has become my favorite passive speaker and all who listen to a pair marvel.

I reported all this to Axiom but likely they think I'm nuts or know exactly what I'm talking about because they hold all the curves and I'm just left with my humble ears-brain. smile


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Zocco97 #440012 12/08/20 09:57 PM
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Nice looking setup! Like the decor and lighting combo. Classy and flashy.

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Great looking setup. Very nice. I know it’s early on in your listening but can you comment on your setup?

Are those aegirs or vidars? And is that a freya +?

How do you like the sound of the Schiit products?

Do they perform as well as you hoped?


Any and all comments or feedback from your components and amps would be great.

Again, really nice setup and congrats on the M5hp!


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Hey thanks for the comments, Mojo always appreciate your insight!
In regards to my set up:
2 Vidar's (mono and balanced)
Freya +
Loki
Mani (Phono)
Marantz TT

So what's with all of the Schiit, well I like the aesthetic, their Customer Service and overall price point. I had a 2 channel amp from Yamaha and Onkyo prior, going separates were truly an experience. Even changing the front end this year my M60's never sounded better. Now those old dogs are retired and the new M5's feeling their space.

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Hey thanks for the comments, Mojo always appreciate your insight!
In regards to my set up:
2 Vidar's (mono and balanced)
Freya +
Loki
Mani (Phono)
Marantz TT

So what's with all of the Schiit, well I like the aesthetic, their Customer Service and overall price point. I had a 2 channel amp from Yamaha and Onkyo prior, going separates were truly an experience. Even changing the front end this year my M60's never sounded better. Now those old dogs are retired and the new M5's feeling their space.

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That's a nice, clean set-up. Love your Erlenmeyer and bong flasks.


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