Thanks, that was a refreshing view. I've come to think (for now!) that the issue is volume and dynamic range. I think much of the real difference between a "cheap" AVR and a good AVR or separate amp has to do with the lack of instantaneous power to cleanly reproduce peaks - all the more so with 5 and 7 channel systems. Add to that a loud listening level and problem becomes more serious. Based on Alan stat of 16db peaks, and reports showing all channel driven power can be 1/3 the FTC power I see the distinction.

Still not sure of what to make of the live/pro amps, put out over 500wpc into 8 ohms for under $800. Even Emotiva (or Jake's Amp Shack for that matter) don't claim such lofty numbers.


Panny 3000 PJ, 118" Carada, Denon 3300, PS3, Axiom QS8, PSB 5T, B&W sub, levitating speaker wire