Just to reiterate what I said in my previous post is that I ONLY use the HDMI cable for ALL playback. The sound is equal or better than any other connection, it is only one cable to hook-up from each player and I get FULL bass management capabilities in my system this way thru the AVR.

The 7.1 audio outs for specifically surround, although good, only provide ONE crossover point which is usually the case with the vast majority of these players when using them strictly in the analog domain.