Thanks. I've playing with pull times a bit. I think I like 25 seconds more than 30. Like you mention, the longer extraction time tends to make the shot bitter. I’m not nearly skilled enough with the tamper to target 23. I’m pretty happy if I can get the same grind within 5 seconds.

I'm hesitant to sign up with another forum. I waste way too much time at this one already.

Tea talk is boring, but these guys just need to derail a thread topic. It's a ritual that has to occur for the real discussion to continue. I think it's ran its course.

I’ve been playing around with the idea of roasting my own beans. Looks as if I can get into that without shelling out a bunch of money. Has anyone tried roasting their own beans?