Yes that is what I am thinking. The Pioneer is suppose to be 100w and the Onkyo 140. But I can live with it for now. I don't need to listen at that high of volumn in my living room. I should have explained the horrible sound in the earlier post as distortion instead of anything that would have to do with different room accoustics. But I tell you they really do put out a lot of sound with the Onkyo for such a small speaker. I wanted to listen to them with my sub but as you can see in this thread it is not working. Anxious to see how they compare in sound with the M80s when I get the sub working.