Uh....I don't quite understand what you wrote there John.

My standard MO is to run the Audyssey auto set up first. I let it do it's thing, then I go into the manual set up and change the crossover (as generally, the mains are set to large), then I verify SPL with my Radio Shack digital meter. The 3808 would get the channel levels very close, including the LFE channel. The 4311 however, consistently sets the LFE channel about 10 db too low. I'm not sure why it is doing this.